John Duggar, Abbie Duggar, Grace Duggar
Photo courtesy duggarfamily.com
Photo courtesy duggarfamily.com
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Thank goodness they are okay. My father was a pilot for 45 years and crashed those small planes twice. The second time he ended up with a broken back and he finally retired his wings. Air travel can be dangerous but those smaller planes are more risky. They seem to have more engine trouble and something else faulty with the built.
ReplyDeleteThat's good they walked away okay. Bless them!
ReplyDeleteThe crash happened in October and they're just now letting everyone know they're OK. Odd.
ReplyDeleteI believe someone leaked to the media they were involved, so they felt they needed to say something.
DeleteThere was a NTSB report taken back then. I don't know why nothing came to light until a few weeks ago. I don't think J&A said anything until after this news came out.
DeleteI think they weren’t going to talk about it but the info got leaked to the media a few weeks ago so they had to address it.
DeleteThey will have seen no reason to make the plane crash public, but now that news places somehow heard, and find it juicy gossip to write about and twist details to make it/them look bad, they figured they better get the truth out there. Makes total sense to me
DeleteSounds like they were being asked about it so they stated what happened.
DeleteYou can't "leak" a plane crash. When a plane crashes, a federal report is taken, and it's public record.
Delete6:57 PM - That's not true for private planes. If so this would had been reported on the news last year.
DeleteYes it is @6:45. The initial report of the Duggar plane crash is public record - I've seen it, I've read it. Private planes are not exempt from the FAA and NTSB.
DeleteRe 6:45 The crash report was public as of November 1st last year. Maybe it never made the local news because it wasn't that big of a story that day.
Delete10:25 Not for private owned planes. The record was made public only after they announced it.
DeleteNo, 8:06. You have to report all civil aviation accidents to the nearest NTSB Field Office within 10 days and once a report is taken, it's public domain.
Delete10:17, No it's not lol. Read it up.
DeleteAircraft accidents has to be reported to NTSB but it depends on the type of accident like bad injuries and deceased on board or in the case of missing aircrafts as well. For John-David, no he didn't have to report this at all which is why it took so long for it to come out the way it did. Anyone who has private own airplanes and was in an announced with no to minor injuries does not have to report it here in America.
DeleteThere is an NTSB report for this accident, and it's public record. Read the Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR). Any accident that produces significant damage has to be reported. The only place for possible debate in this case is whether or not the NTSB would consider the damage substantial enough to reported (but it was). I saw the plane. It had a lot of damage and could not be flown. It had to be loaded on a flatbed and towed.
Delete7:26 Exactly so now we can all stop talking about it and get some sleep tonight. Geez.
Delete4:28 PM - There is no picture of the plane made public.
DeleteThey are lucky! My uncle died on one of those planes including a few friends I knew. John David had longer piloting experience than my uncle did but I still don't think that would had changed anything. Those tiny planes and helicopters are unsafe in my personal opinion. My uncle's plane went down due to mechanical failure. The two friends I lost in another incident was also due to mechanical failure. It had nothing to do with human error as my uncle was very cautious on checking everything and the two friends that lost their lives, their pilot was very cautious as well. Because of this I am terrified to even step foot in a airport. I don't think I will ever get over that trauma. I still here that phone call about my two friends. I still see the police showing up at my parents door to tell my father his brother is gone. I still get nightmares from it like I am in the planes with them. This had to be scary for sure.
ReplyDeleteI am so sorry :(
DeleteI am truly sorry for your loss. My cousin died too on a similar airplane to John-David's. It was a manufacturing error. There was something in the controls that got locked up. I was never on the airplane but trust me, I know what you mean about the nightmares. For me it's like I am looking out through the eyes. It repeats, and repeats. The scenes never changes.
DeleteI'm sorry you were so traumatized. Traveling by plane isn't really unsafe any more than traveling by car is unsafe. However, when something goes wrong with a plane the results are usually much worse than with a car. JD and Abbie were lucky indeed that they were able to make an emergency landing and weren't injured or killed in the crash.
DeleteOh I'm glad they are ok.Your guardian angel was watching over you.
ReplyDeleteBest Wishes from SC
It's strange because the articles made it sound like it just happened. But anyways, glad they are okay! This is why I don't go on small aircrafts. I seen to many accidents with those!
ReplyDeleteOh my goodness! I hope they are okay?!!
ReplyDeleteGlad they are ok.🙏
ReplyDeleteWow, I am glad they are alright. I never been in a crash but I been on a airplane through a storm and going through turbulence. I can imagine that was the same level of fear they went through.
ReplyDeleteYikes!
ReplyDeleteI knew something like that was going to end up happening. I hate those kind of planes.
ReplyDeleteGlad they are ok from nebraska
ReplyDeleteAnd this is why I don't go on any thing that flies. If God wanted me to fly, he give me wings lol. Glad they are okay. It's weird this happened in October but the media painted it to be it just happened. Perhaps word slip and they got it confused? Strange.
ReplyDeleteThis is just a guess, but if John-David and Abbie were traumatized by this accident, they may have wanted to wait for awhile before they shared the details with the public.
Delete11:17 AM - This happened back in October so they probably was scared. That's why it took them this long.
DeleteThat is amazing, that no one was injured in a small plane crash. Must have been so scary in the moments before they were safe on the ground.
ReplyDeleteI consider those tiny planes little more than flying death traps. They are fortunate indeed to have come out of the crash uninjured. Perhaps that's why they took so long to talk about it.
ReplyDeleteIt's a wonder something like this hadn't happened before now with all those little planes they fly. It's not like driving a car. If you engine stops in your car, you coast to a halt on the side of the road. If your engine stops in your plane, you keep accelerating until you're down kersplat.
DeleteAnon 8:02. I don't think you understand how planes work. If the engine stops you have a "glide path" to the ground. The plane doesn't keep accelerating, it's slowing down. You have limited time and distance in which to make a landing. They were lucky there was an open space that was long enough to land the plane. John is a skilled pilot or they would not have escaped injury.
DeleteAnon 8:02. Planes don't just fall out of the sky when the engine stops running. Pilots still can control the direction and angle of descent. If they are lucky as John and Abbie were they can find an open area and bring the plane to a safe landing. The biggest problem when doing that sort of landing is that the plane will run into some obstacle (like a power line, tree or building) since they can't avoid an obstacle with a powerless descent.
Delete@9:13 No, you don't always have control of your angle during descent. It depends on what has gone wrong. If you lose the ability to control the rudders, elevator tabs, or ailerons, you can't control the descent. Small planes like that can spiral down and hit nose-first with devastating impact. If you lose wheel assembly or brake lines, you lose the ability to stop even on a glide path down.
DeleteI was glad to hear that John-David, Abbie & Grace, were all able to escape from this crash with no injuries.
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Deleteso glad they're ok but I don't understand why they would keep it a secret til now. Surely they knew that it would come out and it would seem strange to share it 4 months after it happened.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure it was very traumatic. Maybe they weren't ready to talk about it. They don't owe us an explanation.
DeleteMaybe they're still a little traumatized and wanted to keep it private for a while. Let's just be thankful they made it out alive.
DeleteThe story came out in the news recently, so they probably thought they should say something. If the story had never made the news, I doubt anything would have been said about it. Makes me wonder what else we haven't heard about...yet.
DeleteWow that would be just terrible if any of the pilots in the family crashed and family members were hurt, or worse. I am amazed that everyone was ok this time. It must have been terrifying for a few moments.
DeleteRelieved they escaped without being injured. Have said many prayers for their safety every time I see photos of them in their plane. God bless them.
ReplyDeleteHow wonderful of you -- and what a different spirit you have than some who comment here. I will learn from you and do the same. God bless you.
DeleteWhat a nice thing for you to say. You made my day.God bless you and your family as well.
DeleteThey were fortunate to escape injury. I feel claustrophobic enough in a commercial jetliner- those small planes are not for me.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, 12:54.
DeleteHey thank God U 3, are OK!!!!!! Really!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePerhaps it's just me, but it comes across as strange that they withheld this for so long. If it had been me, I would have been publicly sharing and praising God for saving me from this perilous situation.
ReplyDeleteThis is just a guess, but if John-David and Abbie were traumatized by this accident, they may have wanted to wait for awhile before they shared the details with the public.
DeleteSo scary! I can't even imagine. They are lucky to be alive and John-David was able to land them safely uninjured. There are risks with big, medium and small airplanes BUT those tiny ones seem to have more crash history than the others. I know he enjoys flying but he ought to consider switching to airline jet, maybe? I don't know but then again I known pilots that got back in the cockpit after a crash.
ReplyDeleteA relative of mine owned an aviation repair station before retiring. He always said that those little planes require meticulous maintenance and that most of the owners did not maintain their aircraft as they should. He was quite experienced, talented and held his own aircraft to perfect standards. I highly doubt that the Duggars maintain their aircraft to industry standards..do they have their "fleet" of planes meticulously maintained by licensed aircraft professionals? I doubt it. John Davis is not qualified to maintain his own plane...he needs a registered aircraft repair station and it's personnel to do this for him. No doubt something like this happened.
ReplyDeleteI think you're being very unfair to John to suggest that the engines on his plane failed due to him not maintaining his plane properly. There's no reason to think he'd risk his family's lives by 'cutting corners" on maintenance.
DeleteThe Duggar planes are used older ones too. You have to take that into account.
DeleteWow, well you missed a lot. John-David did maintained his plane the way he was suppose to. Those planes have a huge history of manufacturing error that any well trained pilot and mechanic can miss. I had a family member that died on one of those planes because of a manufacturing error in the plane. You are reaching just like you did with Jessa and Ben's new home. We know who's doing this.
DeleteAnd if he wasn't doing right he wouldn't had been able to land that plane safely the way he did. That's hard for any trained pilot.
DeleteHow do you know this? Do you know them personally? I guess by your assumption, the pilot of US Airways Flight 1549 who landed his airplane on the Hudson River safely and saved all onboard. You are so immature.
DeleteThis was bound to happen to one of them sooner or later. They're lucky to have walked away.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine what was going through John-David's head when this was happening with his wife and daughter on the plane. Those planes are not safe. It can take ONE bad direction of the wind or ONE hot day - it doesn't necessarily have to be cold, rainy or stormy. It can be a normal or what it seems to be a normal day to mess with those planes. It doesn't take much. My teacher in high school died on one of those planes during summer break. It was a hot day and the engine got to hot. Sometimes they burst into flames and sometimes it just stops like it did on my teacher's plane. They need to retire these planes for a while until they can figure out how to build them to make them safer. I knew something like this was going to eventually happen.
ReplyDeleteI am so relieved everyone is safe! I would never want anything to happen to your sweet family. The scare must have changed your perspectives and priorities. Stay safe. GOD BLESS
ReplyDeleteI doubt it. They'll be right back up there in their old planes and probably are already.
DeleteI am so glad you all are safe. Thank you Jesus. Such a miracle. I felt so sorry for you when I heard the news. Thank goodness everyone's alive and well. Natasha b
ReplyDeleteThey need to suspend these types of planes because this happens way to often. I am surprise John hasn't crashed before then but luckily him and his family is okay. He knew what to do.
ReplyDeleteSo glad everybody was safe 🙏🏼 How scary
ReplyDeleteEllie, can you please get rid of these spammers who keep saying "they don't have license" "they don't have experience" "they don't have this and that" without any proof. These are not opinions, they are false claims that they don't have no proof of at all.
ReplyDeleteThank God every one is safe. God Bless. Those small planes are dangerous.
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It sounds like he did a good job flying to get down safely after an engine failure. Glad they are all safe.
ReplyDeleteSo glad they are ok. Love this little family!
ReplyDeleteKobe and his wife had a rule to never fly with both parents on the plane. They should adopt this rule and the baby shouldn't be on the plane period.
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