Happy Mother's Day to the Duggar mamas and all the other moms out there!
The photo below was taken pre-Coronavirus, so no need to post any comments about the Duggars breaking quarantine.
Photo courtesy duggarfamily.com
The photo below was taken pre-Coronavirus, so no need to post any comments about the Duggars breaking quarantine.
Duggar ladies' shopping outing, February 2020
Photo courtesy duggarfamily.com
is anna in the picture? Jenny got so big one with the blonde hair.
ReplyDeleteAnna, is in the back row, standing between Abbie, and Lauren.
DeleteThird from left back row
DeleteAnon @9:43- She is behind Abbie and to the left of Lauren.
DeleteI remember the first time this photo appeared. It seems those who claimed Joy was pregnant and "hiding" a baby bump were correct. lol
ReplyDeleteHappy Mother’s Day ladies xo
ReplyDeleteWhere is Johanna
ReplyDeleteMaybe she was taking the photo.
DeleteThat's such a great photo of them. Happy Mother's Day to all the Duggar moms, especially Michelle, who I think is an extraordinary mom. May all mothers today feel loved and blessed.
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to wish Michelle, Anna, Jill, Jessa, Jinger , Joy-Anna, Abbie, Lauren, Kendra all a very happy Mother's day hope all of you have a special day with all of family
ReplyDeleteWhat a great photo! Thanks for posting!!
ReplyDeleteHAPPY MOTHER'S DAY to all the Duggars.
ReplyDeleteJoan,Marion and Marilyn
Happy Mother’s Day to all the American mums out there. We had our Mother’s Day back on March 22nd in the UK. It’s the first Mother’s Day Iv not spent with my son as he always makes the effort to see me on Mother’s Day. However this year he came on Friday 13th March (1 week after his birthday & 1 week before mothers day). He said he had come then as he didn’t know when he would see me again as things were getting bad with covid 19 & his hospital was cancelling all leave for doctors. He only stayed 36 hours but they were very special & il never forget the hug he gave me as he left & just clung to me. It was MY Mother’s Day that Sunday we had together & looking back, probably the most precious we have ever shared. I really hope the mums on the blog have as special memories of their day, & even if like me, you aren’t with your children, hopefully you will be back with them Very soon. I send special love to those mums as I know how hard it is not to have that special day with your child. I haven’t seen my son since that weekend before Mother’s Day but I hold on to the hope that I will see him very soon. Prayers & love to you all 🙏 💞
ReplyDeleteThank you! Same to you! I have read things are bad in UK.
DeleteFuzzyferet I'm so glad you had the special time with your son. All this lockdown will be over soon. Here in the States things opened up this week except for the schools and libraries. The 21st we will be able to have inside dining at our restaurants. So your country will no doubt be doing the same thing too. I thank God we are coming to the end of this nightmare.
Delete@10:01 We're not coming to an end at all! This is a different phase with more contact allowed and therefore heightened risk. If reopening results in spikes in cases, then shutting down again is the only thing to do. The "end of the nightmare" will be when Covid-19 is no longer in the news, no longer spreading, there's a vaccine, there are effective treatments, and enough people have immunity to make it harder for the virus to jump between victims. Even then, many of those who were afflicted with this virus will face health challenges for the rest of their lives. No, the nightmare is not ending.
DeleteAnon 10:01 - not in New York! This week we have phase 1 of reopening - construction and some manufacturing.
Delete1:28, I don't think a vaccine will be the end of it at all. If it mutates, will a vaccine be effective?
DeleteIt has already mutated. "D" and a "G" strains have been identified. But like the flu shot that has to be tweaked every year, a vaccine of some sort will still help. Even if vaccines miss the bullseye, they do offer some help if you catch a strain of something. Vaccines help prepare your immune system to identify intruders, to put it in simple terms.
DeleteHappy Mother's Day to the Duggars & extended family members. I hope you & your family's are staying safe. I can't wait for the new season of counting on to pick up. I hope the new season is filmed with laughter,fun, excitement & full of surprises for the fans. Natasha B.
ReplyDeleteThank you Ellie for adding that the Duggars are not breaking quarantine. I hope all the moms out there were able to have a nice Mother's Day.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, Arkansas' governor was behind the rest of the country when it came to restrictions. When that picture was taken, there were active cases in the US and this pandemic was already taking its toll. Jinger would have flown in and out of Los Angeles, and there was already community spread going on in California then. It may not have been a technical break of a quarantine, but it was still risky. Look at all those innocent children who could have been exposed or infected.
DeleteAll 3 together less than 6 feet apart and no masks on for that video looks like breaking quarantine to me.
Delete7:58 -- And if we banned driving, we could save a lot of lives from traffic accidents. Do you have an idea how many families are being financially RUINED by this unjustified "quarantine," not to mention the lives lost to suicide, the cases of extreme depression and escalating domestic abuse???
DeleteHindsight is 20/20. I don't think many people expected it to explode the way it did.
Delete7:58, this was at the end of February. No one was being told not to travel or be in groups, not even in California. They had no idea this was risky behavior. We can look back and armchair quarterback, but we didn't know what it would be like even a week later. Why should they have?
Delete@10:45 It's time to stop equating a virus with driving. They're two entirely different things. How long have experts told us to have 6 months of living expenses set aside for times like this? What happened to the stimulus checks, loans, and debt payment suspensions? How many suicide help lines and domestic abuse hotlines are there? You're making it sound like all that stuff happened and there was no possible way to see it coming or to avoid it. "God helps them who help themselves." Do you know how many more families would have been ruined if their family members had become ill, hospitals were overcrowded, and doctors started deciding who got a ventilator and who didn't? Quarantine was the only choice we had!
Delete10:45, you can’t compare traffic accidents to this virus for the simple reason that the virus is contagious. You can’t catch a traffic accident.
DeleteI happen to live in a city with the highest rate of Coronavirus per capita because we're a college town and these kids don't think they should have to stay home or wear masks in public. We're also a DC bedroom community with a healthy dose of liberal-leaning retired people who don't like to listen to authority and think their age allows them to ignore sound medical advice. They could not care less about carrying anything to anyone else, asymptomatic or not. In less than a 2 week span, we've lost 41 elderly people (somebody's sister/brother/aunt/uncle/grandmom/granddaddy/mother/father/best friend/neighbor/etc.). Total lack of compassion, empathy, and humanity. Quarantine and stay-at-home orders are the order of the day. It's the only way to allow hospitals and morgues a fighting chance to keep up and the only way to try to slow this virus down. It's called responsible management.
Delete@10:17 Surprising that the older folks in your area aren't complying. I've seen all of the older folks (60 and up) here with masks on in public and also taking advantage of the senior hours for grocery shopping, when the stores are less crowded. It's heartening to see so many being responsible. The people without masks seem to be the college age crowd and the 30-somethings, mostly men. The people at the large protest rallies are the conservatives who feel that the government is unlawfully restricting their freedom (freedom to catch a deadly virus?). One woman told a reporter that she would be at the next protest because that would be the day her quarantine would be up! No mention of whether or not she was getting negative tests in the meantime or if anyone else in her household was currently positive. She was ready to protest in a crowd at the first opportunity! There's the reason the rest of us are staying home.
DeleteThe photo was taken back in February, most places wasn't closed until March.
Delete@8:54 You don't wait until the storm is on top of you to start sheltering. You know it's coming and you act beforehand. Most places waited way too long to close. Smart people had imposed restrictions on themselves long before that, after seeing what was happening elsewhere in the world and knowing it was starting on both coasts of the US.
Deleteyeah hope they had a good day with the Duggar family
ReplyDeleteHAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL THOSE DUGGAR MOTHERS, I HOPE U ALL HAD, HAD THE BEST DAY, AND THEY MADE A BIG FUSS FOR U ALL!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePitiful shame that people have to be told to mind their own business about timing of family photos.
ReplyDelete@8:54 I disagree. That gathering was back in February and although an official quarantine was not yet declared in Arkansas, it really wasn't a sensible idea for such a large group to travel or get together. There is nothing wrong with saying that, and the way the virus spreads is everyone's business.
Delete7:42, the governors should have been encouraging people not to travel back in February, then. If people weren't being told not to travel, how were they to know? My relatives were able to fly out of the country in early March from a major US airport and there wasn't any sort of advice being given not to travel. It wasn't until mid-March that we saw states being shut down.
DeleteActually California and Oregon were already overwhelmed by mid to late February. My brother-in-law was speaking at conferences there in early March and they warned us early on the East Coast to begin stocking up. He caught it from the conference, but they had already planned prior to going to self-quarantine upon arriving home (good thing they did, but going was a mistake).
Delete@10:22 I was warned to stock up on hand sanitizer and wipes the first week of February by someone I know in Japan, where the virus had already hit and supply problems had already occurred! This was after I unsuccessfully tried to track down masks the 3rd week of January. I have dated e-mails to prove that my recollections of those times are correct. How anyone pictured could not have known about this virus by late February or could have thought it would be a good time to gather is beyond me.
Delete8:54 AM - See, that there is the problem. They should had pre-warned EVERYONE months before. We are talking at least January. They know all this started in a lab.
DeleteA doctor in Wuhan did try to do that very early on @8:53. He reported a strange group of pneumonia illnesses in November? December? It took a little time to know what was happening, but by mid-January the news had broken worldwide. Then it was up to anyone with common sense to start taking precautions, not waiting for some official to tell them what to do. I think we all know that you catch "colds" by being around someone who is sick. What other warning do you need?
DeleteAlso, your last statement is purely conjecture, not fact. There is no definitive proof yet of exactly where it started, naturally or in a lab. Unless the CIA or the NSA has told you something, you can't be sure about the lab.
8:54, I live in the midwest, and it was still life as normal at the end of February. Within a week or two things were completely changing for our area.
DeleteThere is no proof the virus was started in a lab & our government officials were warned at least by January. They chose to minimize it.
DeleteHere's wishing, all of the Duggar Mamas, a Happy Mother's Day!!!!
ReplyDeleteIt seems rather odd that Jill has brought her boys to an all girl event. Anna and Joy don't have theirs there.
ReplyDeleteObviously they did what they had to do for each of their families.
DeleteIt's pretty obvious that her husband wasn't available to watch them that day.
DeleteSome of them brought their children.....
DeleteI know right? A sitter should have been hired.
DeleteThis is an odd observation. Get real, she's a mom!
DeleteHow do you know it was an all girl event? Jill could have been visiting with her boys and the photographer decided not to exclude the boys.
DeleteAnon @7:59- Maybe she didn't have a sitter for them. She probably has Michelle or one of her younger sisters babysit, but since they all were there, she didn't have one. And who cares? The boys are small and they don't know the difference!
DeleteI was thinking the same thing! If you can't get somebody to watch them just stay at home. Don't bring them and be inappropriate and have them be disruptive and stand out likes a sore thumb.
DeleteI thought so at first but maybe it was Joy's sister shower and since Jill and Joy are so close it follows that the boys might want to come and celebrate too.
DeleteJill is always trying to stand out.
DeleteI agree. At least for the photo.
DeleteI also miss Kendra, Addison and Johanna.
It would be great to have all the Duggar women and girls on one photo.
She doesnt have daughters..
DeleteDerick could have been at work or school and Josh and Austin may have been available to watch their kids. I can see if one of the Duggar brothers had shown up to this but these are just little guys.
DeleteJessa brought Spurg and Henry
DeleteGoodness - so much negativity about a family gathering! I'm sure they all would rather Jill come with her boys than to not come at all.
DeleteJill's boys are cute. IMO they shouldn't have been there. It ruins the all female photo and their behavior and faces are not appropriate for anywhere but home.
DeleteDo you think they cared if the boys were there? That's what matters, not our opinions.
Delete8:39, what did you mean when you said the boys' behavior and faces are not appropriate for anywhere but home?? Wht do you dislike them so much? What an awful thing to say.
DeleteI believe the poster referencing the boys' behavior and faces was referring to Samuel pulling an ugly face, not in keeping with creating a nice family memory photo. As an aunt to six boys and a teacher, I'm well-acquainted with boyish behavior, but I'm surprised Jill's boy's feel free to behave like this at a family event given all the Duggar's teaching on training their children up. I would have expected Jill and Derick to be instructing their own boys in what is acceptable behavior and in what circumstances. Age is no excuse here because none of my nephews would have made faces like that in a family picture (they all knew better).
DeleteAgreed @10:29. Where are the meek and happy countenances that Michelle so proudly taught her children to always have? Where are the hushed voices and the self-control that she was so eager for her children to demonstrate on TV?
Delete6:48 - They had other children there and what I love about the Duggars they don't give their children to babysitters all the time like most parents do these days. And when they do, it's always a family member. Not some stranger. They actually take care of their kids. Dads and moms are to busy with their own lives to care about their kids, that's why the kids these days are so bad.
DeleteYes, you're right that we shouldn't talk about the Duggars breaking quarantine in this photo, but how about when Jim Bob, Michelle, and Jessa all broke quarantine for the homeschool convention video? Is it okay to talk about that time, or are the Duggars allowed to do what they want because their "celebrities"??
ReplyDeleteThis photo was taken in February when the virus was very much in this country! Even if local officials hadn't said to stay home, what they did was still risky, especially Jinger traveling from the west coast.
DeleteAll of you hiding behind your "Anonymous". Some things...MOST things..are really none of your business. Troll somewhere else.
DeleteThere's always one.............
DeleteThere is no quarantine in Arkansas. Just some business closed like restaurants and stuff.
DeleteHave you heard of Zoom?
DeleteThey never broke quarantine. I think you are confused.
DeleteI agree about the video filming. They were all way too close.
DeleteDuggars will be the first to protest that they are NOT "celebrities"! It's their personal, family decision; get a life! ❤
DeleteIf it was just the three of them, they weren’t breaking quarantine. My friend and I routinely take her three kids, and one to three other kids to parks. It’s called “safety circle”.
DeleteYou can use something called Zoom or prerecord yourself. They were not breaking quarantine.
DeleteShame on you! People have lost their Jobs and are not all getting money to feed their families!! This is nothing about our health. All about control of the masses and breaking down the economy which sadly has happened!
DeleteYou can't be serious, "anonymous". If Ellie hadn't put that this post would have been littered with people assuming they were breaking quarantine, and posting hateful comments. Some people just can't help themselves. Hope you're having a better day.
Delete"BROKE QUARANTINE"? You mean exercised their God-given rights as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment to the US Constitution? Is that what you mean by "broke quarantine"?
DeleteThis is a old photo from a few months ago. Read the blog, they did not break quarantine.
Delete6:42- This virus hit Asia and Europe before the US. Were those countries all trying to control the masses and destroy their economies, too? BTW, we have had far less restrictions than many other countries. I suggest you do a bit of reading about the 2818 flu pandemic and polio outbreaks. This is not a hoax.
DeleteAnon 6:42 You are absolutely right. Where I live there are lots and lots of factories that never shut down and the people have not got any virus. People have gotten the flu here and there but that's it. So when they shut down schools, restaurants, certain stores etc. everyone knew that this has nothing to do with a pandemic, but everything to do with ruining the economy because it was the very thing that made our President stand out, because he had created the best economy in history. But people are all waking up to this scam and are demanding everything open up and thank God it is happening now.
Delete@6:42- I have to say- shame on you for perpetuating false information and spreading the fear that this is all intentional. It doesn't matter who you are, a government official/journalist/doctor/factory worker/SAHM/trucker/cashier/etc., this virus does not discriminate. Your attitude is an afront to all the medical professionals working tirelessly to care for the sick. Do you think they're in on your conspiracy theory?
DeleteAnon 6:42. Do you really believe that governments WANT to wreak their economies to "control the masses"? Over 80,000 people have died of this disease in this country alone, many of them our parents and grandparents. This is a pandemic not some sinister plot as you seem to believe.
Delete5:22, if no official was telling Jinger it was something to worry about and she shouldn't travel, why would she know it was risky?
Delete6:42, nothing about our health? Maybe you don’t realize this is a deadly virus. I would say it’s definitely about our health.
Delete5:55 here.- Sorry for the typo , should be 1918 flu pandemic.
Delete10:56 What, you need an official to knock on your door and talk to you personally to know what's risky and what isn't? It's called common sense. You don't go through a busy airport and get on a crowded plane with your toddler when a deadly virus is spreading throughout the world and dominating the news.
Delete@10:43 Your God-given rights do not extend to violating directives that are put in place to protect public health. One of the roles of government is to protect the citizenry.
Delete@10:43 Right now, 84,243 American citizens had every Constitutional right taken away from them by this virus. In other words, we lost that number of loved ones. Complaining that people can't gather for lunch for awhile PALES by comparison. Our government has been very good this time about allowing us to leave home for essential reasons. Back when polio, smallpox, TB, and other diseases had community outbreaks, the county Board of Health used to nail a quarantine notice to your front door if anyone in the household was sick, and you couldn't leave the house without fear of criminal prosecution. Of course, without measures like that in place these days, people have been coming up with all sorts of things they think are "essential," including gathering at church, at bars, at parties, and at other places that have been identified as sources of outbreaks. Texas, which just relaxed a lot of its rules, has had a big surge in cases in the last 5 days. Stay home, anyone who can. The Constitution will still be there for you when it's safe to come out again and you've survived.
DeleteAnon 9:23 Maybe you should step outside for a while and find out first hand what is really going on. I don't think anyone is saying this isn't a nasty virus, but like any other flu or virus If you have underlining health conditions then you stay home like every other year there is a bad virus. When a flu or virus has a recovery rate of 98 percent then it's a little crazy to shut down a country and cause mass financial ruin, huge increases in domestic violence, huge increases in child abuse and suicide. When people have to have heart surgery put off, cancer screenings put off, hip replacements put off etc. etc, well that's a huge problem. But guess what they made sure you didn't have to wait for, that would be abortions, yep planned parenthood didn't shut their doors,no putting off exterminating your baby. So that says a Whole lot!!! Factories have been up and running, Walmart, Target, Appliance centers, convenient stores etc. and guess what, people did just fine. So maybe what the liberal media is telling you isn't really the truth. Hmmmm
DeleteTo all the Constitutional experts here: Maybe you can help me figure out how to exercise my God-given right to freedom that's being taken away from me every time a traffic light turns red and I am forced to stop by the same government that's trying to control the masses during this pandemic. I have Constitutional rights to freedom and I should be allowed to go if I want to, right?!
DeleteAnon 1:13 Directives put in place for public health, one of the roles of government is to protect citizenry? Sounds real good until you look at some facts, and here is one of them facts. There are 19,440,469 reported abortions of U.S. Citizens in 2020 and its only May. So 98 percent survival rate of the coronavirus, 19,440,469 deaths, no survival rate of aborted US citizens. Operations for heart and cancer, hip, knee etc put on hold but abortions are freely available. So you will have to excuse me for not taking your post very seriously and another thing, I think you are putting a Whole lot of trust in what is clearly reckless, deceitful propaganda that some in the liberal media are feeding you. Might want to start doing some research.
Delete@5:22 People in stores and factories have NOT been doing fine. You're saying all those workers who were picketing and protesting unsafe working conditions were part of a liberal plot? Meat processing workers and produce pickers didn't really get sick, it was all a ploy? The stricken Wal-Mart and Target employees (some of whom are in my community) are faking it to make a liberal point? It's just a media rumor that an Amazon warehouse worker died? Really, these attempts to blame this virus on anyone or anything other than the virus itself are getting ridiculous.
Delete6:46, there are governors who are literally suppressing rights like free speech (masked people 6 feet apart praying in front of an abortion clinic), 2nd amendment rights (Virginia, I believe, using this as an excuse to limit gun rights), pursuit of life (calling important surgeries elective), liberty (arresting a father for being at a park with a child, well away from other people), the pursuit of happiness (Illinois governor saying you can't have more than 2 people on a boat), and freedom of religion (being fined $500 for sitting in a car in a church parking lot and listening to a church service over the radio). Your analogy of red lights has nothing to do with anything, because that is in the law. Nothing that I mentioned is a law. Governors are making these decisions and saying they will be in force for months or even years. These governors are taking cart blanche to do whatever they want, although there are thankfully some checks, in the form of the attorney general and the judicial system. The latest atrocity I have seen is the state of Washington setting up "camps" for children who have been exposed or even may have been exposed. Are these children going to be taken from their parents against their will? These children, who may not even be sick, taken away from the people who know and love them best, and returned who knows when? Taken care of by who knows what people and surrounded by who knows what kids? That is a horrific situation.
Delete@5:22- This is not like any other flu or virus and it's unfortunate that your go-to "media" is trying to convince you that it is. Your minimizing COVID's dangers is disrespectful to the countless care givers putting their own lives on the line to treat those infected. Yes, terrible and unintended things are happening because of it, not because we've overreacted. Look around the world. Nearly every other country has responded with lockdowns, in many cases more restrictive than ours. IMO, what's even more scary and outrageous is a White House that has created more division in this country than I've seen in my whole lifetime, and I'm getting pretty darn old. I thought the 1960's were bad. That now seems like a walk in the park.
Delete@11:56 You need to state the source where you got that abortion number. "There are 19,440,469 reported abortions of U.S. Citizens in 2020 and its only May." How did you come up with that number when consistently there are only about 600,000 abortions in any calendar year in the US (source: the CDC)? There have been nowhere near 19 million abortions performed in the last 5 months! Quote your source or correct your number please.
DeleteAnon 8:41 You are wrong, we are out there everyday, our factories stayed open. We shop, we go to gas stations, convenient stores that we have always frequented and there is not 1 person in our circles who have gotten the coronavirus, not 1. So people falling over dead from this "pandemic" or even catching it is nothing we have seen. Georgia is a good example, they have their opened their state and No there is No Spike, the numbers of corona have declined and they are well on their way to society as they have known before this craziness of lockdowns.
Delete@9:59 Your comments are based on misinformation, but particularly the one about children in Washinton State being sent to "camps." These are camps meant for foster kids, already in their system. The state is responsible for their care. No one is being taken from their parents if they are infected. I suggest you broaden your scope of news information, rather than getting it all from one or two obviously biased and inflammatory sources.
Delete@9:59 Under a declared State of Emergency, a governor can enact restrictions that carry the same enforceable weight as a law. No governor went rogue and became emperor. The framework to legally do what has been done already existed.
DeleteMandates are being challenged by sad (and often misinformed) society members who can't seem to follow rules and think their version of "rights" come before anyone else's. At at time when state office staffers and the judicial system are already stressed and overworked, it's unbelievable that these staffers now have to spend their time trying to appease the complainers. These government workers are REAL people with REAL families and REAL feelings, same as yours. They are not part of some conspiracy out to "get you." I know because my father was part of that system for his whole career. I can't tell you the number of times he had to put down his fork during dinner and take a phone call from someone complaining about some perceived injustice, who had found our home phone number and thought dinner was a good time to vent. My father had the patience of a saint. I wish I could say the same for the residents of our state, but I can't.
@11:13 Because you don't know anyone in your circles who has this, it's not a problem? I know 3 people who had it and were not hospitalized; 2 people who had it and were; 1 that was on a ventilator and needed plasma antibodies; 1 person in a long-term care facility who had it and squeaked by after some frightening events; 1 person in another facility who just got a positive test; and 1 person who had to leave Spain because of it. I don't have that big of a circle of friends and it's touched that many. Instead of denying that it's a problem, I'm thanking my lucky stars that I'm not among those numbers and that I haven't had to mourn the passing of anyone I know. But every week brings more news to my e-mail...
DeleteAlso, the reopening spikes will not begin for 2 weeks or more after reopening. There has to be time for people to mingle, spread the virus, feel symptoms, get tested, get the results, and be reported. You don't get a jump in reported new cases the day after things open. Give it time.
Anon 9:05 I think the abortion number is as of May 2020. I also seen where the recovery rate is way up there in the high 90s. I think people think that if someone catches the Covid 19, that they die. But recovery is really high.
Delete11:56, I would suggest you recheck your numbers. I can’t find how many abortion clinics in the U. S. there currently are but in 2014 there were 788. This is a decline from previous years & I would assume the number is even less today as many states are enacting laws to shut down clinics.
DeleteSo, fun fact: Using 788 clinics,19,449,469 abortions would mean that each clinic would have performed 249,352 abortions so far this year, or 49,870 per month. 1662 per day. Let’s say the clinics are open 10 hours/day. That would be a whopping 166/hour. Usually there is 1 doctor per clinic. Even considering that many women receive medication to cause the abortion the numbers don’t add up. Does this sound even remotely feasible? I didn’t think so.
For 11:13 My state opened a little over a week ago and now we've had a spike, the worse day of reported new cases yet. They're talking about going a step back and shutting down again.
DeleteNone of them broke quarantine people.
DeleteAnon 1:38 I checked some facts about abortion and I think the poster must have been talking about 19 million so far this year worldwide. Last year 2019 there were 42 million abortions worldwide which made it the leading cause of death in the world. In the US there are approximately 3,000 abortions performed everyday. You can find stats on abortion on pro-life sites.
DeleteAnon 12:24 Did you notice how you mentioned the different people that got civic 19 and get they all lived. I have seen years of a bad flu going around where people didn't live but the country didn't shut down. The covid 19 mainly kills very elderly people and most of them have underlining conditions and so we need to secure the elderly from not getting infected in nursing, long care homes. But the country should have never been bought to a standstill like this. I'm glad it's reopening now. LA people are threatening to riot I heard because the governor and mayor have extended their lockdown for a couple more months. They went as far as telling the people you can go to a couple beaches they opened but you can't stand on the dry sand only the wet sand. So clearly the mayor and governor have lost their minds and I'm waiting to hear them say you can go in public only if you skip but no walking. lol. But the people in LA have come to the end of listening to their crazy leaders.
DeleteAnon @10:36- No offense but your logic is flawed. Yes, the poster listed people who got COVID19 and lived but tens of thousands have also died (not all of them elderly, not all of them with underlying health issues, as previously believed). You, me, and the CDC have no way whatsoever to guarantee who will and will not survive exposure to this virus...despite all the odds, percentages, statistics people like you like to quote. That's why the CDC routinely prefaces their statements with "We don't think...", "At this time, there's no evidence of...", and "We believe...". Anytime there's a new viral threat, there's a learning curve. In Science and medicine, they document what's readily observable first. Information is updated as more observations are made, as theories of transmission are proven or disproven, as the viral contagion mutates, as additional new symptoms are observed/recorded/verified/compiled, as methods of containment fail or succeed and so on. Medicine is not an exact science, as our hospital likes to post in every ER patient pod. Because you could be an asymptomatic carrier, passing COVID19 along to anyone you come into contact with (potentially fatally) in addition to anyone who comes into contact with you being an asymptomatic carrier (potentially fatal to you and yours), stay at home orders, masking up, and social distancing are our best weapons. It's ironic that the same people who trust the CDC enough to quote their posted survival rates don't want to follow the CDC's health care advice. smh
DeleteHow about an update on Jana! Did she ever do anything with that retail store she purchased?
ReplyDeleteYes! I want to know too! I don’t know anything what’s going on with her anymore...
DeleteThat is on hold right now.
DeleteStore? I thought it was an old tattoo parlour.
DeleteWho knows? Did she do anything thing with the school house she bought either?
DeleteShe’s likely just renting it out, like Jim Bob would do.
DeleteCOVID-19 has slowed small businesses down right now.
DeleteShe could have fixed it up and sold it to pay for her travels.
Delete8:21, Jana is gardening, at least.
Delete@6:51 Yes. And compensation for not getting the TV show money is more like it.
DeleteSo...Jana is not doing anything.
DeleteJana is still doing the business and it has not opened yet.
Delete8:49, what is the business that Jana has? Just curious since I’ve never seen it mentioned anywhere. I hope she is allowed to own and operate her own business if that’s what she wants.
DeletePlease Duggars aren't celeberties! That just have to happen to have a LARGE family only reason they are online. Not any different or better than any of us or who post on here. Thank you, Leadabeth spelled celebs wrong whoops
ReplyDeleteOkay, if you feel that way than you must feel that way about Little People, Big World and all those other shows where they are just regular people who happen to be very short.
DeleteI hope everybody had a good mothersday. My mothersday was sad. My son lives in a home for mentally handicapped people and i was not allowed to see him because of the virus. I have not seen him now for 8 weeks and i know he s missing me very much. I hope i can see him soon again. I miss him so much...
ReplyDeleteSaskia- I'm sorry you were unable to see your son and I'm sure he's missing you also. I'll pray for both of you. I live just a few blocks from a large retirement community and nursing home complex. I've seen family members have "window visits", where they stand outside their loved one's window so they can at least see each other. Not sure if that would work for you or not. Maybe you can make him special card, send him a picture of you, make a recording and send it to him, maybe send a small inexpensive little care package, or drop off just a little something (bright balloon, book, etc.)? Hope that helps some. Sending love and hugs to you and your son!
DeleteA lot of women who have a pregnancy after miscarriage do not rush to announce their pregnancy. You make it sound like Joy was ashamed of having a third pregnancy.
ReplyDeleteAll married Duggar girls are amazing mothers and it comes from their own mother Michelle. Anna also found like a second mother in Michelle. They are all so lucky to have Michelle in their lives!
ReplyDeleteWe had a small gathering for Mother's day. No fear mongering at my place
ReplyDeleteFear mongering? Do you realize that even the most fearless people - first responders, doctors, nurses - have been coming down with the virus after being around someone who has it? Coronavirus doesn't care how you feel about it. All it needs is to transfer from one person to another, no matter what the circumstances. Being around anyone else, even your immediate household members, is a risk, if they've been around other people too. Small gathering, large gathering - it doesn't matter. It only takes one positive person to continue the chain. Outbreaks have begun during the most innocent of events like birthday parties, church services, and even funerals. I hope the people at your gathering are isolating themselves for the next 2 weeks until they're sure nothing happened.
DeleteNo fear mongering at my place either, but we also followed our state’s restriction guidelines.
DeleteIt is shocking how little importance some people put on health. Or put obstinance before protecting themselves and others.
DeleteI hope none of your guests also have a small gathering at the local hospital in a week or two. Can't help but wonder what the staff there, who would put their lives on the line to save yours, would think of such gatherings in their community.
DeleteGlad to know you're not among the fear-mongers spreading the falsehood that this virus is just a ploy by our government or media to control the masses.
DeleteI am always concerned when someone dismisses public health warnings as "fear mongering". Covid 19 is a new disease that has no effective vaccine or treatment to mitigate it. The only real defense we have is the lock downs and social distancing measures that were put in place. Although unpleasant the measures did keep the disease from overwhelming our health care system. It remains to be seen what will happen as these measures are being lifted.
DeleteI hope you people who are not practicing social distancing don't live anywhere near me!
DeleteIt's not fear-mongering when your spouse is an essential worker and one of his co-workers contracts Coronavirus from one of her family members and suddenly you and your own family are self-monitoring with health logs and twice daily temperature checks for the next 14 days, we're on high alert over any coughing/tiredness/etc., disinfecting shared surfaces, and calling "good night"s & "I love you"'s from afar. When you're decontaminating the family car and your spouse's work shoes on a daily basis and he's masking up before he leaves the house. When the business seals off the wing and calls in professional contractors to decontaminate. You may not thought this through, but Coronavirus carriers share the hallways, stairwells, bathrooms (the air space), as well as touching common surfaces (entrance and exit doorknobs, handrails, keypads, copiers, office equipment, paperwork, office files, computer equipment, employee lounge microwaves/refrigerators/tables/chairs). We all know that not everybody has the best hygiene practices either when it comes to covering their nose when they sneeze, covering their mouth when they cough, wipe their nose with their hand (front or back)...and we won't even talk about how many people stick things in their mouth (like pens/pencils) or lick their fingers to help separate their money when they go to pay for something. We're in Day 6 counting down, but if another co-worker becomes ill, our 14 days gets reset. We had to have an appliance repair person come today-both he and I were masked and gloved and our home was generously Lysol-ed after his visit, with me wiping the laundry room floor with disinfecting wipes (no aerosol spray -open flame gas hot water heater in the space) and wiping the appliances down. This is a real virus, with potentially life-altering consequences for real people with real families. Yes, the majority of victims will survive, but you have no way to guarantee if you or those you love will be in that majority. Please be smart, be safe!
DeleteNow I know why the US is among the top countries for coronavirus cases per million people population, and the leading country in cases overall.
DeleteVery well said 11:01! It's easy to say the response is overblown and the shutdowns are too harsh. It's much harder to be facing the life or death fear directly and battling it, the way your family has. I certainly hope they will continue to remain well.
DeleteMy friend sadly informed me yesterday that her husband's long term care facility now has positive cases. Those had to come from an infected worker and spread within the facility, since nobody else has been allowed in for 3 months, and the patients certainly did not leave to go shopping or to a party. Who knows where that worker got infected, but someone somewhere infected them somehow. This virus spreads like wildfire, and unfortunately innocent people in care facilities are succumbing. All we can do now is pray that the exposed people survive.
1:27 It simply isn’t true that we are leading in cases. The Chinese who lied about the virus lied about the numbers who had it and the numbers who died. Less than one percent of our population has had the virus. We need to stop overreacting. Wash your hands and go about your life. We can’t stay in lockdown forever.
Delete@1:16 We are leading the world in known and reported cases. Cluster outbreaks are happening. It doesn't make a difference that overall the percentage may seem low when you have places where the percentage has been very high - at church gatherings, at parties, at nursing homes, in prisons, at work places, on cruise ships, in airplanes, and so on. Cluster outbreaks without quarantine lead to rapid diffused spread. That's what's been happening. You said it yourself - almost nobody is immune. This is how it became a pandemic.
DeleteJust as long as you are following the guidelines and you or your mom hasn't been around anyone and been social distancing , it's fine to do so but it's still taking a chance.
Delete@8:46 But being around your mom puts her right into the category of being around someone! She's exposed now to anyone you were exposed to, and so on and so on. Even people who followed the guidelines have gotten sick. There was a doctor on the news who wore gloves and a mask on a plane trip, but he still got sick. He said he thinks it entered through his eyes, and that he should have worn goggles. If someone like a doctor, who knows all about infection control guidelines, can pick up this virus in public, then any of us can. You start spreading when the virus is replicating, before you feel sick. Is it worth risking your mother's health?
DeleteWe celebrated both of our mothers from afar, as they are both elderly with underlying health issues and my husband's workplace (an essential sector) has a positive COVID-19 employee. Because workplaces aren't required to inform all their employees, the assumption is there's only one to date, but some could potentially be asymptomatic (God forbid and I mean that) and we're still within the 14 day range. Better safe than sorry isn't fear mongering or chicken little...it's exercising wisdom. Why play around with a relative's life? Or a neighbor's or a stranger's?
ReplyDelete@12:19 Some people have no problem playing around like that because they say they have RIGHTS and nobody is going to TRAMPLE on them or tell them what to do... We see these people on the news every day, at protests or even punching a store manager for telling them to wear a mask. It's so sad. All the while, these people are defying common sense and risking themselves and everyone else, but that seems to be the last thing on their minds. It's more selfishness than selflessness. This is a time and a situation that calls for the second of those two. Thank goodness we're seeing examples of that, whether it's the kids coordinating food drives, the people sewing masks, or the front line workers in the hospitals, some of whom have succumbed to this deadly disease themselves. :( Times like these bring out the best and unfortunately also the worst in people.
Delete1:22, some people are rebelling because they see a lack of common sense from their leaders, including the ones who say you can't have more than two people on a boat, you can't sit in an enclosed car in a church parking lot and listen to a service on the radio, and you can't stand an abortion clinic with a mask on but you can go inside that clinic and have your baby killed.
DeleteI don't know who you people are around, well I guess no one because you are hiding in your houses. I am all over the place and let me tell you, the people in public see first hand what is going on and are fed up with this silly lockdown. The workers in grocery stores, factories, department stores etc., are rolling their eyes at this craziness they hear on tv after seeing the reality of the situation. You would think listening to tv and these Hollywood actors that people are dropping like flies from this virus. This has got to be the craziest situation we have seen.
Delete@11:22 Yes because it's a legal medical procedure and it needs to be done in a timely way as many pro-lifers are quick to point out.
DeleteAnon 5:19 I am going to disagree with you on this. I am older and have underlying medical conditions. I appreciate the efforts you call "silly" efforts to curtail the spread of this virus that could easily kill me. I go grocery shopping every two weeks. None of the employees at the Kroger where I shop are "rolling their eyes". They are taking this quite seriously as they are at risk of being exposed to the virus all day every day. I also wonder why you think the medical experts that appear on TV at briefings are "Hollywood actors". If you look at the FACTS, when this virus gets into a nursing home or long term care facility about 40% of the patients who become infected DIE. That is very BAD IMO. Perhaps you might feel differently if one of your elderly relatives got this disease and died.
Delete5:19- I live in the Midwest and we are not hiding in our homes trembling with fear. I go for long walks and am planting a garden. When I do go to the store, nearly everyone is wearing a mask-including myself and the workers. They are wiping down carts and counters as customers come in and maintaining social distancing. Meat-packing plants have had to close down for weeks at time due to COVID infections among the employees. Department stores are open only to pick-up service. The only craziness I see includes the people who continue to perpetuate the myth that this virus is all a hoax.
Delete5:19 Exactly!! The hospitals except for New York City were not overwhelmed. I know nurses who have been laid off or their hours cut. More people will die from this shutdown than the virus if we don’t get the economy moving again. A young mom we know couldn’t have the brain surgery that she needed because it wasn’t “essential.” Others that need cancer surgery have not been able to have it.
DeleteAnon 11:22. Yep. It really chafes when you have strangers telling you what you can and can't do. I bet women seeking abortions feel EXACTLY the way you do about that.
Delete@5:19 "Fed up with this silly lockdown." I can think of a lot more things people could be fed up with, such as being flat out in the hospital on a ventilator or watching one of their loved ones in such a predicament. I don't see any workers in grocery stores rolling their eyes. I see them staying behind their plastic dividers wearing masks, using hand sanitizer, wiping their registers, and worrying that the next person through their line may be positive and breathe on them. Do those clerks a favor and mask up or stay home. I'm not only wearing a triple-layer medical mask, I'm taping it down around the edges to keep air from getting in or out except through the filtering layers. I have gloves. I have wipes and sanitizer. I wash my hands and gloves when I get to the car because I'm carrying my own soapy hot water containers with me. Groceries go into quarantine for a week before being allowed in the house or touched again. I'll be darned if I'm going to catch this virus through any action of my own, and I would prefer that none of you out in public spread it either. My entire "social life" right now consists of going to the grocery store once a week at 6am. Nothing else is worth risking my life, especially not when I'd have to be around people who are "all over the place"!
Delete@1:23 Why do you think it is that the hospitals were not overwhelmed? Because of the stay-at-home orders! Honestly, you can't please anyone. There would have been massive complaints if the hospitals had been overrun. Why complain now that they weren't? We should all be thankful. The only hour cutting I know of for medical staff was the cut from overtime/emergency preparedness mode back to normal mode.
Delete8:06, elective abortions, which are a huge percentage of abortions, are not medically necessary.
Delete@10:06 Right, which is why they're called elective. Your point is? You don't want people to elect to do something that's perfectly legal to do? I'm glad as many doctors offices and clinics as possible were still able to stay open and operate safely, no matter what services they were providing. I had to go to the doctor myself in person twice in the last month. What you think is necessary is probably not the same as what someone else thinks, but that doesn't make it wrong.
DeleteJust wanted to ask: I'm curious to know how many people posting here about their constitutional rights being violated or just tired of having to stay home (or tired of having to take care of or entertain their children all week) have held a dying loved one's hand while they were on a ventilator? How many of you have sat in ICU waiting rooms, waiting your turn to go in to say goodbye? Now think about all those families who could not touch, speak to, hold, or even be in the hospital or facility while their loved one was passing (knowing their loved one was dying totally alone). Viruses are transmitted by people...whether that's people carrying them through body secretions, carrying them in on their clothing/shoes/hair, carrying in them in on contaminated objects or via contaminated surfaces in shared spaces. Staying home to stop (or at the very least slow) the spread is a legitimate measure.
DeleteAnon 10:06. People have elective medical procedures done all the time. So what is your issue? I had an elective procedure done last year. I'm glad I wasn't confronted by an angry group of people when I went into the outpatient surgery center for my cataract surgery.
Delete8:12, my issue is with all the "elective" procedures that have been canceled in the past 2 months, some to the detriment of the patients, while baby killing is allowed to continue.
Delete@12:53 I know what you're referring to, but you're confusing elective SURGERY, where you choose the date for surgery, with an elective PROCEDURE, where you choose to do something or not.
DeleteDeciding which SURGERIES can go ahead right now is not black and white. There are a lot of factors involved. How overwhelmed is the hospital? How much PPE is available? What's the risk for Covid transmission to someone already experiencing health problems? What's the risk of exposing the public (beyond the patient) and worsening the spread? How critical is the patient? All those questions must be weighed.
Also, "baby killing" (as you call it) isn't going as smoothly as you are trying to say. There have been clinic shutdowns and court challenges. Women have had to resort to risky travel (potential virus spread) to find services. There are all the frustrations of what you are complaining about - electives being canceled - PLUS politics thrown into the mix too. Imagine if you had to have a court fight (and a public opinion fight) to get any kind of medical procedure or surgery, and the clock was ticking. Talk about a detriment to the patient.
Anon 12:53 Abortion is a Constitutional right. Don't forget that fact. People are clamoring for their Constitutional rights right now. Well there's one that's not being suppressed, so why not view that as a good thing.
Delete9:24, please quote the part of the constitution that says abortion is a right.
DeleteCertainly 8:06. It falls under the 14th Amendment, the Right to Due Process. It was the hallmark of the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973. The 14th Amendment forbids states to take liberty away from a person without due process. Your right to liberty includes making decisions about your body and your family size. Therefore, you have the right to end a pregnancy without undue government interference. Abortion is also protected under the 5th Amendment which restricts the federal government (also falling under due process). Read the Roe v. Wade decision and you'll see. Hope that clears up your question.
Delete8:06 which part of the constitution says you have a right not to follow health guidelines during a pandemic?
DeleteAbortion is legal. I think that’s what 9:24 meant by that comment.
Anon 8:06 The Supreme Court used the 14th Amendment as the basis for their landmark decision on abortion, which is indeed a Constitutional right. It's covered under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Delete"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The basis for Roe vs. Wade.
DeleteI'm surprised that pro-lifers don't understand how and why abortion is a right. Seems if you're going to be against something, you would thoroughly understand what you're opposing.
DeleteAs far as pandemic rights, don't forget that governors declared states of emergency which then allowed them to implement policies and restrictions not normally placed on citizens.
Thank you. It is a right. It's not forced on anyone, but it's a legal choice, and that's what's important. We don't all agree on differing lifestyles, but that's OK. As long as we can choose things that are right for ourselves and legal to do, and we don't try to keep others from choosing for themselves too, we're good.
DeleteHEY WHEN ARE THE DUGGARS COMING BACK???? I WANT TO KNOW PLEASE!!!!
ReplyDeleteThey are not filming right now due to CONVID-19.
DeleteI am sure that as soon as TLC announces a premiere date, for the next season of Counting On, this blog, will also share that announcement.
Deletecan we get an update on Grace, Bella & Addison?
ReplyDeleteA question for all the pro-life readers who are complaining about what's open and what's not: How can you justify going out in public and spreading a virus or picking up a virus, knowing it could cause your death or someone else's, and maybe a chain of deaths? Isn't that all covered under the same "Thou shalt not kill" commandment? I truly don't understand the difference. Unborn babies you feel you must save, but someone's mother, father, or grandparents are OK to put at risk? Even kids now are coming down with that unusual inflammation response after being exposed, and some have died from it. Isn't ALL life worth protecting?
ReplyDeleteRead the heartbreaking stories of people who have infected family members who then passed away. How do you live with that guilt?
DeleteIt seems most of the pro-life people are doing the right thing right now and that's staying home and away from people. It isn't just Christians and Republicans that are pro-life, sir/ma'm.
DeleteHi Texas. @8:44
DeleteApparently, the Duggars have been laying low. Not much to report, no episodes and no family news! The Bates seem to be booming!
ReplyDeleteEveryone is laying low. It's safer for them and everyone else. If they wasn't quarantining, people would have something to say about that too.
DeleteIt amazes me that the people who say they won't possibly catch this virus are the same ones who would play the lottery, thinking they'll win. Do you want to gamble with something? Then pick the one where you have the best odds of winning, which would be the virus. Right now in the US, 1 (actually 1.5) in 330 people have an active case of Covid-19. That means one person in your high school class, one person in your church, one person at your wedding (or 3, if you're a Duggar). All it takes is one person and a little social interaction to start an outbreak. Five minutes of normal talking next to a positive person without a mask on either of you is all the time it takes to give you a large enough dose of virus to infect you. Singing or shouting shortens that time. We went from no known cases to almost 1.5 million known cases (by the time this is published, probably more) in 3 months. What will the next three months bring, if people are encouraged to get out and about more? Then the winter after that, when seasonal flu comes back too? There really is no good time to let your guard down or to brush this aside as "nothing" or "hype by the media." Listen to the overworked (and infected) doctors and nurses, not the impatient, disgruntled citizens who feel cooped up and have suddenly discovered their "rights."
ReplyDeleteAs far as businesses reopening, what good is that if your customers are sick or have passed away? Or worried that they could become sick? This is a free enterprise country, so business owners were free to chose whatever line of business they did and should have known their impact from an economic slowdown. If you weren't offering an essential business, that was your choice and your gamble going in. I have a friend who owns a small business and she has chosen not to reopen yet because she doesn't want to risk her staff's or her customer's health. I think that's very responsible of her.
Ellie and Lily: Why are you allowing conversation about the pandemic on this site? The discussion has gone on too long. Posters should keep their comments about this family on this site. I'm not interested in a debate over COVID-19 here. thank you....just a suggestion.
ReplyDeleteI think it's been very eye-opening, especially the comments from the people who think this is an overblown hoax and don't want to comply with orders. It's made me want to douse myself in Lysol and hand sanitizer all the more, because they're probably in the supermarket the same time I am!
DeleteThank you Grace - my thoughts exactly. This post was to celebrate Mother's Day and comments should reflect that.
DeleteI'm really enjoying the comments about the virus and am interested in the different viewpoints. The Duggars aren't doing much of interest right now so the virus posts are good IMO. In my state our governor took prompt action and did a great job of convincing everyone to abide by the restrictions. As a result we have had relatively few cases (7500) and about 320 deaths (mostly elderly people). I know restrictions are tiresome but they actually work and now our state (Kentucky) is starting to reopen. I guess you could just not read the comments if you don't care for them.
DeleteGrace- I don't have a problem with the topic. I have always enjoyed reading the perspectives of others. If this were a blog just to sing the praises of the Duggars, I wouldn't visit at all.
DeleteHelena- The celebration of Mother's Day was very much affected by COVID19, so it stands to reason that people would talk about it. I like to read other people's opinions.
DeleteWe SHOULD be discussing the virus outbreak. It affects all our lives in many ways. Somehow the doings of the Duggars in the context of a global pandemic don't seem very important to me.
DeleteThey are allowing it because it's their site.
Delete9:23, if you don't want to dig deeper into the virus, at least read the health information about lysol use (and overuse).
DeleteWhat do people want from us? Do you want to live in quarantine forever? Do you want to do it until a vaccine, which at best would be a year? There is no guarantee of a vaccine ever! There are plenty of viruses that don’t have vaccines. AIDS took more than 30 years to have a somewhat effective treatment. Masks don’t stop you from catching it either. Until this outbreak, all studies and evidence showed that cloth masks really aren’t effective and can even increase infect infectivity. Now their suddenly effective somehow?! Masks just make you feel slightly better but scared and miserable at the same time. At some point we have to start thinking about quality of life as well as quantity. I have an 85 year old grandmother whom I love dearly. She is most happy when she is having gatherings at her house surrounded by her family. Of course I don’t want her to get the virus! It could very easily kill her. At the same time, none of knows when we will die. Each day could be your last. This coronavirus has no end in sight. Do we really want to spend our few days in isolation without fellowship, hugs, handshakes, never seeing smiles, and living in constant fear all to maybe add some time to life. I’m not saying I have all the answers, but these are questions we have to ask. At some point something has got to give.
ReplyDeletePeople need to take it seriously because I didn't and I lost a few people. AIDS is not a airborne viral infection that is taking out people left and right. Masks are actually effective and even better with goggles.
DeleteI agree with you.
DeleteA good friend of mine just lost her elderly mother to COVID. She had been in a nursing home and hadn’t been able to see her since March. Her mother died all alone... there were no hugs, smiles or hand holding. It was an excruciating illness that sapped the breath right out of her body. Ventilators are saved for younger patients. That might be ok with you, but I wouldn’t wish that kind of death on anyone. I don’t expect quarantine to go on forever, but I do think that a compassionate society should continue to take precautions to limit the spread of this virus.
DeleteI don't think your grandmother is going to dwindle away if there are no family gatherings at her house for 2 or 3 months. For myself, if MY grandmother got this virus because I didn't follow public health guidelines I would be tortured by guilt the rest of my life.
DeleteSomehow I think Grandma is less troubled by these restrictions than you are.
DeleteQuarantine will not last forever, as states are already gradually opening up. As in 1918, this virus is something we'll be living with for an undetermined amount of time- at least until there's a vaccine or it just plays itself out. I'm not sure what your expectation is, but it is going to take time for things to even resemble normal. I would have a hard time living with myself if I infected someone due to my reckless behavior. Medical personnel are relying on all of us to be cautious. Just remember that your actions are not limited to consequences for yourself, but everyone with whom you come in contact. They may very well want to stay healthy and be willing to make short-term sacrifices for it.
DeleteIf your grandmother is 85 then she is old enough to remember WW2 and the family separations that happened then. That generation is and was emotionally strong and endured a lot of hardships already that you and I hopefully will never have to face. Ask your grandmother how people endured when they had to be separated because of the war. "All in this together" and sacrificing was the way of life back then too.
DeleteAnonymous @11:43-I hear your heart and yes, none of us know exactly how much time we have and we do want to love our family and friends well. Unless your state is on a no traveling lock down, there's nothing to stop you from going to your Grandmother's and standing six feet or more away and talking with her or visiting from outside her closed window. Living near a retirement community/nursing home complex, we've seen family members having window visits. We've driven twice to another city to backyard "visit" (i.e. check on) my elderly in-laws (my MIL has an underlying heart issue). They sit on their under deck porch, we stand or sit at least 6 feet away. Yes, it's hard to remember not to hug when we arrive or leave, but seeing them reminds us not to. It is ideal? Hardly. You've got a valid point- we don't know how long it will be this way. It may very well be for a long time. But we're in this (loving our family, neighbors, friends, community) for the long haul. Yes, we're all going to die some day (unless Jesus comes first, if you're a Christian). But no one wants to be the person responsible to hastening that day, when it can be avoided. If we choose to do things like we've always done though, it may not just be your 85-yr old grandmother who pays that price. She may survive it, but one or more of her children or grandchildren or that close family friend might not. How would your Grandmother live with that? How would your family live with that? You all might gather and none of you have symptoms and all recover, but as you go back to your own individual lives, carry it to your co-workers (and their families), neighbors (and their families)/Church members (and their families), child care workers (and their families), hairdresser/wait staff/dental employees (and their families), grocery store employees who clean your cart after you (and their families), utility workers/postal workers/anyone who handles anything you've handled or envelopes you've licked to seal(and their families), your mechanic (and their families) and so on. This pandemic is a defining moment. Defining moments define us-our character, our integrity. I strongly suspect you would not want someone outside your family to carry COVID19 to your grandmother. It's not okay for your family to potentially carry it to others.
DeleteHappy Mother’s Day to all the mothers here! And to those women who don’t have children of their own but have still mothered others!
ReplyDeleteWhat a nice photo! Thank you for sharing it again.
ReplyDeleteHere's hoping that Jill, is enjoying her 29th Birthday!!!!
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