Ben Seewald, Jessa Seewald, and newborn Henry Seewald
As we shared yesterday, Michelle Duggar and Jessa Seewald headed down to Laredo, Texas, to help Jinger and Jeremy Vuolo care for newborn Felicity. Ben, Spurgeon, and Henry tagged along.
I really hope that Jessa is expecting again soon...and Anna and Jill. I hope that Lauren and Abbie both have babies next year also...if John David and Abbie are married before the end of this year, which I think it very likely.
Jill had a csection only a little over a year ago. It would be wise to wait at LEAST another year before trying again, for her safety and any new baby’s safety.
That’s a little dramatic. 18 months between pregnancies is the usual recommendation where I’m from. Either way, there’s no rush. It’s not a competition. People need to take the pressure off these ladies getting pregnant all the time. Just let them live their lives.
They mention once again that adoption or fostering is "in their hearts." If they are truly serious about it, focusing on having more biological children may have to be put on the back-burner for awhile. I'd be surprised if they ever do that.
I’d be very surprised that any reputable agency would place a child with any of the Duggars. Too many controversial things have occurred, just being on a reality tv series would likely be seen as a negative. She may be saying “I have baby fever”, however she seems well grounded likely to wait a bit and enjoy her handsome boys.
9:55, adoption agencies don’t not let a couple adopt because they have a weird family member. And they wouldn’t be the first couple to adopt while being on a reality tv show, IG the little couple and the duck dynasty couple who adopted a baby boy a few years back. If you’re a loving couple who can provide for a new family member, and YOU don’t have any criminal back ground, you’re good to go.
I would imagine that any of the Duggars will go back to Central America to adopt, where they went on previous trips. With the people they know there, they're bound to be approved for adoption there.
I don't think the talk is fake, but I think that if it happens, it's going to happen the way 9:33 described. Go to one of those orphanages where they know everyone, sign papers, done deal.
2:01- Internationally adopted children automatically become US citizens when the adoption is finalized. This wan’t the case 22 years ago when we adopted our children. It was more complicated back then and dealing with the DOI was no walk in the park.
I can attest to this happening. I have theee littles, ages 4, 2, and 14 months and every time I see a baby, I’m anxious for another one. Children are a blessing and I think all women have an innate desire to nurture, some women just nurture animals and plants instead of babies. My husband and I are hoping for10-15 kids but we’ll see how many God blesses us with.
Men have the capacity to be every bit as nurturing as women. As far as having a huge family, I hope you have the means to support them, not only financially but also emotionally. I’ve known women who love having babies around, but once the kids are old enough to have a mind of their own, not so much.
Agreed!! Preach it! Sitting here nursing my seventh baby and it never gets old. My heart aches as I imagine what it will be like when there’s not a baby in my arms anymore. For any struggling with infertility, these words aren’t meant to wound you, but validate your feelings and comfort you that we weep with you
Anon 12:43. It sounds like you have a bad case of "baby fever". I am a bit curious as to what your other six children are doing while you are nursing and cuddling your latest baby.
I am pregnant with baby number 6. My children are under 7. You can definitely nurse a baby and take care of your other children. I do it every day. My youngest just turned one and he still nurses alot, and being pregnant or having other children doesn't hinder that. I have all boys but one so they really have to be watched, and they are. Not everyone can do it, and God's plan isn't the same for everyone.
9:55 do you have something against having seven children? Not trying to be rude but you seem a little weird about a woman who is nursing and cuddling her baby.
Each age does have its merits, but that special connection between a mom and her baby after having carried the baby for nine months, sight unseen, is unique and short. My oldest is six, and while I'm trying to enjoy all the delight of this age, I miss having babies. Especially because they don't talk back. ;)
Jessa has very beautiful young boys I'm praying for you Jessa to have twin girls soon and I hope you and Ben will pray about adding a expansion on your house for the future nursery and a extra bathroom growing kids and future babies will need extra room soon
Well, only if they didn't speak so loudly about adoption before and knowing that young infant doesn't match with adoption. (That's what they have been told) If they get pregnant soon again, then are adoption plans again in jeopardy and very doubtful of they wil ever adopt anyway.
I think their plan had been to adopt after having Spurgeon, but then she got pregnant with Henry when Spurgeon was only 6 months old, which was a shock. Not for all women, but for many full time breast feeding works as a natural birth control, so that was probably what they had been relying on.
I think it's great that they've thought about it and are leaving their options open. They're young, and they have plenty of time to consider whether they really want to pursue it at some point.
If she isn't already pregnant I'm sure she will be by the time the new season ends, with an announcement made just before John David and Abbie marry in September or October!
I really wanted to have a baby girl, but all I got was a bunch of boys. Oh well...She can want a girl all she wants, but that doesn't mean she'll give birth to one. Its in God's hands. All that really matters is that the baby is healthy, and you can financially take care of it.
I agree. I have one daughter and four boys. I'm hoping baby #6 is a girl but I know how special boys are. Girls are equally special. But really one isn't better than the other. It really is about God's plan.
I wondered that, too! Why would you bring a one-year old and a two-year old to a house with a newborn? Schedules and sleep would be disrupted enough already.
And many new parents enjoy time alone with their new baby to bond as a family. I’ve noticed that Jessa, Ben and kids travel frequently must be nice to have such a flexible work schedule.
#1:They were probably in a hotel. #2:She’s still nursing Henry so he had to come. #3:Ben knows how to watch kids, it’s not like Jessa had to be with them 24/7
What I find weird about this is the fact that Ben is always traveling with Jessa. He did it for Joy’s dress shopping in Kentucky as well. None of the other spouses were there. Doesn’t Ben have a job or something he has to do?
I asked myself the same question. In all the episodes, I have never seen a Duggar girl go anywhere without her husband and kids along. Even on dates, I have seen their children with them. Maybe it is part of their belief system?
Why would you not take your spouse with you? Having the cousins together even when one is a newborn is fun. They might have stayed at a hotel, so sleep times wouldn’t be too interrupted.
I thought she said she wasn't nursing any longer. And I don't understand how staying at a hotel is any help to a new mother. You need help at night, not just during the day.
Also, It's things like this that bring back the old "What exactly do the Duggars do for work" question.
If I just had a baby I would be resentful having young toddlers around. I'd want to be alone to recover and have time with just my husband and baby. Having help is great don't get me wrong, but young tots are loud and need a lot of looking after lol.
So true 7:05. You need more adults around, not more toddlers. Unless they can pick up a crying baby, do a 2am feeding, make dinner, do the wash, or clean the house, they're not much practical help.
I think that pregnancy and having a baby in the house can become as much an addiction as anything else. Perhaps that is the case with most of these mega families. If it makes them happy and they can support their numbers, that's fine. However, I think it disingenuous to claim it's God's plan. If you choose not to use any form of contraception, then it's your own will and desires at play.
Right?! I honestly hope they wait until they are financially prepared and are truly ready for another baby within their family dinámica, and not just get pregnant because they “miss the newborn smell” or something
Wow you’re all rude, the magazine would have ASKED her for an interview, it’s not like she just popped up begging for an article to be done on her family.
Anon @ 12:07 I feel the same way as you. This was Jinger and Jeremys special time at the birth of their first child, Jessa has had her moments in the spotlight with both her babies, and we have seen numerous pictures of her boys (cute though they are), it almost feels like it is a competition to Jessa.
7:00, that was a photo for a news article, not a candid picture of them sneaking into Jinger's nursery and getting into the baby toys behind Jinger's back. The photographer probably told them to get on the floor and play for the photo.
Jessa wants a baby girl more than anything. And she should stop talking about adoption of they are not serious about it. It is hurting real adoptive parents and waiting parents to be.
Please explain how it’s hurting anyone. And how do you know she’s not serious about it? I knew couples who talked about adopting for years before it was actually time for them to
This bothers me too, 12:34. Don't keep talking about adoption "someday." Do it, or stop talking about it. I think it's hurting most the children waiting long days for parents who never come.
9:26, I know families who talked about adopting for years before they actually were able to. Just because you can’t adopt at that exact moment doesn’t mean you can’t talk about it.
Also 9:26 unless you have personally adopted or are planning to, I would be so high and mighty. Why don’t become one of the parents who steps up and does come, instead of bashing a family you don’t personally know because they say they want to adopt someday?
Are they on the list? It doesn't hurt anyone else trying to adopt because if they're on the list and can't adipt, they would be passed over for another family. Your comment is foolish
Being supportive of adoption is nothing but positive. I see nothing wrong with their happy views of adoption. Does not hurt anyone and in fact spreads the news how good adoption is.
How would you like to be one of those kids at the orphanages they visited, and hear them talking on camera about adoption...but they never came back...
7:02, if they knew about the problem first hand then they would say so, instead they’re judging a couple for saying that they would like to someday adopt.
I am curious also. I presume he works for Jim Bob and helps with all the maintenance necessary for all their properties. I know some people would look down on this so they probably don't talk about it much publicly. My cousin is in his thirties and has never had a 'real' job; he just does errands for his dad. But someone needs to do those little jobs and might as well hire family than a stranger.
I hope Ben and Jessa finally consider adoption. They talked about it when they first got married, they would be great parents to a child in need of a forever family.
3:03- Do you give this type of unsolicited "needs to" child-rearing advice to all your family and friends as well? I highly doubt this little boy will be one day walking down the aisle of his own wedding wearing diapers.
I have 1 girl and 4 boys. Boys potty train just fine. All of mine have been potty trained by 2 1/2. They went straight to underwear. About to start potty training my one year old. I really don't care how others handle potty training. I just do what works best for my family. Every family is different and will have different ways of doing things. And Spurgeon may potty train really fast because he is older. When they are younger it's more work on the parent, but I think when they get older they sometimes get where they refuse to go potty. So, it's all work.
"Baby Fever"???What are Henry & Spurgeon?..chopped liver? They are hardly independent, driving adult college students. She has TWO babies already. Enjoy the ones you have, my dear.
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I think Jessa will be pregnant this year! I wondered if seeing Jinger's baby girl would make her want another one.
ReplyDeleteI wondered that, too, and I thought it likely would.
Deletewhen will the header be updated w/ Garrett and Felicity as well as John David's fiance?
DeleteAwesome. Looking forward to seeing how you grow your family!
ReplyDeleteI really hope that Jessa is expecting again soon...and Anna and Jill. I hope that Lauren and Abbie both have babies next year also...if John David and Abbie are married before the end of this year, which I think it very likely.
ReplyDeleteJill had a csection only a little over a year ago. It would be wise to wait at LEAST another year before trying again, for her safety and any new baby’s safety.
DeleteThat’s a little dramatic. 18 months between pregnancies is the usual recommendation where I’m from. Either way, there’s no rush. It’s not a competition. People need to take the pressure off these ladies getting pregnant all the time. Just let them live their lives.
DeleteShe should be able to try again by now..
DeleteThey're going to be too busy for family expansion. Probably too cash-strapped, too.
Delete6:50, since Samuel was her second csection, it would be wise to wait a while longer.
DeleteThey mention once again that adoption or fostering is "in their hearts." If they are truly serious about it, focusing on having more biological children may have to be put on the back-burner for awhile. I'd be surprised if they ever do that.
ReplyDeleteI’d be very surprised that any reputable agency would place a child with any of the Duggars. Too many controversial things have occurred, just being on a reality tv series would likely be seen as a negative. She may be saying “I have baby fever”, however she seems well grounded likely to wait a bit and enjoy her handsome boys.
DeleteI think her point was they’re thinking about putting having more bio kids on the back burner for awhile
DeleteThe adoption talk is fake for me.
Delete9:55, adoption agencies don’t not let a couple adopt because they have a weird family member. And they wouldn’t be the first couple to adopt while being on a reality tv show, IG the little couple and the duck dynasty couple who adopted a baby boy a few years back. If you’re a loving couple who can provide for a new family member, and YOU don’t have any criminal back ground, you’re good to go.
DeleteI would imagine that any of the Duggars will go back to Central America to adopt, where they went on previous trips. With the people they know there, they're bound to be approved for adoption there.
DeleteI don't think the talk is fake, but I think that if it happens, it's going to happen the way 9:33 described. Go to one of those orphanages where they know everyone, sign papers, done deal.
Delete6:48, adopting out of country is MUCH more complicated than that. The child they adopted would have to get US citizenship
Delete2:01- Internationally adopted children automatically become US citizens when the adoption is finalized. This wan’t the case 22 years ago when we adopted our children. It was more complicated back then and dealing with the DOI was no walk in the park.
DeleteI can attest to this happening. I have theee littles, ages 4, 2, and 14 months and every time I see a baby, I’m anxious for another one. Children are a blessing and I think all women have an innate desire to nurture, some women just nurture animals and plants instead of babies. My husband and I are hoping for10-15 kids but we’ll see how many God blesses us with.
ReplyDeleteMen have the capacity to be every bit as nurturing as women. As far as having a huge family, I hope you have the means to support them, not only financially but also emotionally. I’ve known women who love having babies around, but once the kids are old enough to have a mind of their own, not so much.
DeleteAgreed!! Preach it! Sitting here nursing my seventh baby and it never gets old. My heart aches as I imagine what it will be like when there’s not a baby in my arms anymore. For any struggling with infertility, these words aren’t meant to wound you, but validate your feelings and comfort you that we weep with you
DeleteWhen there's not a baby in your arms, you appreciate the children you have and the stages where they currently are. Each age has its merits.
DeleteAnon 12:43. It sounds like you have a bad case of "baby fever". I am a bit curious as to what your other six children are doing while you are nursing and cuddling your latest baby.
DeleteI am pregnant with baby number 6. My children are under 7. You can definitely nurse a baby and take care of your other children. I do it every day. My youngest just turned one and he still nurses alot, and being pregnant or having other children doesn't hinder that. I have all boys but one so they really have to be watched, and they are. Not everyone can do it, and God's plan isn't the same for everyone.
Delete9:55 do you have something against having seven children? Not trying to be rude but you seem a little weird about a woman who is nursing and cuddling her baby.
DeleteEach age does have its merits, but that special connection between a mom and her baby after having carried the baby for nine months, sight unseen, is unique and short. My oldest is six, and while I'm trying to enjoy all the delight of this age, I miss having babies. Especially because they don't talk back. ;)
DeleteAnon 3:03 Your family sounds beautiful!
DeleteJessa has very beautiful young boys I'm praying for you Jessa to have twin girls soon and I hope you and Ben will pray about adding a expansion on your house for the future nursery and a extra bathroom growing kids and future babies will need extra room soon
ReplyDeleteWell, only if they didn't speak so loudly about adoption before and knowing that young infant doesn't match with adoption. (That's what they have been told) If they get pregnant soon again, then are adoption plans again in jeopardy and very doubtful of they wil ever adopt anyway.
ReplyDeleteI think their plan had been to adopt after having Spurgeon, but then she got pregnant with Henry when Spurgeon was only 6 months old, which was a shock. Not for all women, but for many full time breast feeding works as a natural birth control, so that was probably what they had been relying on.
DeleteI don't think they'll ever adopt. It seems more like a "talking point" than any real plan on their part.
DeleteThey should stop talking about it of it is never going to hapen. Or of it is not possible
DeleteI think it's great that they've thought about it and are leaving their options open. They're young, and they have plenty of time to consider whether they really want to pursue it at some point.
DeleteIf she isn't already pregnant I'm sure she will be by the time the new season ends, with an announcement made just before John David and Abbie marry in September or October!
ReplyDeleteI'm betting she's pregnant again.
DeleteYou think John David and Abbie will marry in September? I was going with October. We'll see.
DeleteI was praying Hessa’s second baby would be a girl, but maybe God is planning one next time.
ReplyDeleteDoes it really matter that much? To pray for Jessa to have a girl is like saying that a boy would be a disappointment.
DeleteI really wanted to have a baby girl, but all I got was a bunch of boys. Oh well...She can want a girl all she wants, but that doesn't mean she'll give birth to one. Its in God's hands. All that really matters is that the baby is healthy, and you can financially take care of it.
DeleteI agree. I have one daughter and four boys. I'm hoping baby #6 is a girl but I know how special boys are. Girls are equally special. But really one isn't better than the other. It really is about God's plan.
DeleteA baby being healthy is not all that matters. God’s blessings come in all kinds of bodies.
DeleteInteresting comment
DeleteWhy would Jesse’s whole family tag along? How much help could she be with all of them?
ReplyDeleteI wondered that, too! Why would you bring a one-year old and a two-year old to a house with a newborn? Schedules and sleep would be disrupted enough already.
DeleteI agree as well. Unless they stayed in a hotel couldn't Ben stay at home with the kids?
DeleteAnd many new parents enjoy time alone with their new baby to bond as a family. I’ve noticed that Jessa, Ben and kids travel frequently must be nice to have such a flexible work schedule.
Delete#1:They were probably in a hotel. #2:She’s still nursing Henry so he had to come. #3:Ben knows how to watch kids, it’s not like Jessa had to be with them 24/7
DeleteWhat I find weird about this is the fact that Ben is always traveling with Jessa. He did it for Joy’s dress shopping in Kentucky as well. None of the other spouses were there. Doesn’t Ben have a job or something he has to do?
DeleteI asked myself the same question. In all the episodes, I have never seen a Duggar girl go anywhere without her husband and kids along. Even on dates, I have seen their children with them. Maybe it is part of their belief system?
DeleteWhy would you not take your spouse with you? Having the cousins together even when one is a newborn is fun. They might have stayed at a hotel, so sleep times wouldn’t be too interrupted.
DeleteI thought she said she wasn't nursing any longer. And I don't understand how staying at a hotel is any help to a new mother. You need help at night, not just during the day.
DeleteAlso, It's things like this that bring back the old "What exactly do the Duggars do for work" question.
I thought Ben was trying to be some rap star now ?
DeleteIf I just had a baby I would be resentful having young toddlers around. I'd want to be alone to recover and have time with just my husband and baby. Having help is great don't get me wrong, but young tots are loud and need a lot of looking after lol.
DeleteI totally agree with you at 7:05.
DeleteSo true 7:05. You need more adults around, not more toddlers. Unless they can pick up a crying baby, do a 2am feeding, make dinner, do the wash, or clean the house, they're not much practical help.
DeleteThis announcement comes as no surprise. Baby Fever is an epidemic with the Duggars.
ReplyDeleteI think that pregnancy and having a baby in the house can become as much an addiction as anything else. Perhaps that is the case with most of these mega families. If it makes them happy and they can support their numbers, that's fine. However, I think it disingenuous to claim it's God's plan. If you choose not to use any form of contraception, then it's your own will and desires at play.
DeleteWell holding a newborn kind of makes it hard NOT to have baby fever. They’re so sweet and tiny😍😍
DeleteI think it means Jessa is pregnant.
DeleteRight?! I honestly hope they wait until they are financially prepared and are truly ready for another baby within their family dinámica, and not just get pregnant because they “miss the newborn smell” or something
ReplyDeleteWhy does there have to be a story in a magazine to announce she has baby fever?
ReplyDeleteBecause jessa loves the limelight. She just can't get enough of it which cracks me up. Lol
DeleteI agree. I thought this was to be Jeremy,Jinger and Felicity's moment. Someone always has to steal the thunder.
DeleteWow you’re all rude, the magazine would have ASKED her for an interview, it’s not like she just popped up begging for an article to be done on her family.
DeleteI thought the same thing. Let Jinger have her moment, but Jessa likes to be in the limelight.
DeleteAnon @ 12:07 I feel the same way as you. This was Jinger and Jeremys special time at the birth of their first child, Jessa has had her moments in the spotlight with both her babies, and we have seen numerous pictures of her boys (cute though they are), it almost feels like it is a competition to Jessa.
DeleteI thought the pictures of Jessa and her boys playing in Jinger's nursery, as if they owned it or lived there, crossed the line.
Delete7:00, IT WAS A PICTURE FOR A PHOTOSHOOT!! What line does that cross?!
Delete7:00, that was a photo for a news article, not a candid picture of them sneaking into Jinger's nursery and getting into the baby toys behind Jinger's back. The photographer probably told them to get on the floor and play for the photo.
DeleteBaby fever? As in "I'm pregnant again". lol
ReplyDeleteAs in “she wants to be pregnant again”
DeleteChildren are not something to keep having just because you want to hold a baby again. Weigh quality vs. quantity.
DeleteIs her baby fever not cured by - her baby?
ReplyDeleteI think baby fever really translates to newborn fever
DeleteJessa wants a baby girl more than anything. And she should stop talking about adoption of they are not serious about it. It is hurting real adoptive parents and waiting parents to be.
ReplyDeletePlease explain how it’s hurting anyone. And how do you know she’s not serious about it? I knew couples who talked about adopting for years before it was actually time for them to
DeleteHow is her talking about adopting hurting real adoptive parents and waiting parents to be????
DeleteThis bothers me too, 12:34. Don't keep talking about adoption "someday." Do it, or stop talking about it. I think it's hurting most the children waiting long days for parents who never come.
Delete9:26, I know families who talked about adopting for years before they actually were able to. Just because you can’t adopt at that exact moment doesn’t mean you can’t talk about it.
DeleteAlso 9:26 unless you have personally adopted or are planning to, I would be so high and mighty. Why don’t become one of the parents who steps up and does come, instead of bashing a family you don’t personally know because they say they want to adopt someday?
DeleteAre they on the list? It doesn't hurt anyone else trying to adopt because if they're on the list and can't adipt, they would be passed over for another family. Your comment is foolish
DeleteBeing supportive of adoption is nothing but positive. I see nothing wrong with their happy views of adoption. Does not hurt anyone and in fact spreads the news how good adoption is.
DeleteMaybe 9:26 is adopted and knows about this problem first-hand. Did you think of that before criticizing, 3:43?
DeleteHow would you like to be one of those kids at the orphanages they visited, and hear them talking on camera about adoption...but they never came back...
Delete7:02, if they knew about the problem first hand then they would say so, instead they’re judging a couple for saying that they would like to someday adopt.
Delete12:02, and the you know they’re not ever coming back......how exactly?
Delete12:02 - You think those kids in Central American orphanages watch TLC??
DeleteJessa, don't think U have to have lots of babies, U have as many as UUU truly want, and U don't have to have 19+ kids!!!!! LOL!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAgreed!!!! I think the same could be said, of any of the married Duggar women, including Michelle.
ReplyDeleteJessa is married. Easy fix.
ReplyDeleteJessa has 'baby fever', my first thought was don't they all?
ReplyDeleteJessa is pregnant thats for sure!
ReplyDeleteDoesn't Ben have a job? How can he get so much time off work? Just curious.
ReplyDeleteI am curious also. I presume he works for Jim Bob and helps with all the maintenance necessary for all their properties. I know some people would look down on this so they probably don't talk about it much publicly. My cousin is in his thirties and has never had a 'real' job; he just does errands for his dad. But someone needs to do those little jobs and might as well hire family than a stranger.
DeleteHe was supposed to be studying college Bible courses online. Haven't heard another word about it since it was first announced.
DeleteI always have baby fever... I feel ya girl.
ReplyDeleteI hope Ben and Jessa finally consider adoption. They talked about it when they first got married, they would be great parents to a child in need of a forever family.
ReplyDeleteThey are considering it, it’s more about when they’re actually able to.
DeleteThe first girl in the family. Fantastic work Jinger. Pray for you
ReplyDelete"First girl in the family"? There seems to be TWO other Duggar granddaughters in the "family" that I'm aware of.
Delete@7:09 Felicity is the first girl in Jinger and Jeremy's family. They might have other girls someday,but Felicity is their first child.
DeleteI think Spurgeon needs to be potty trained. He is 2 1/2. I sure hope Ben is working with him because he is not a baby.
ReplyDeleteNot your kid, not your problem.
DeleteWho cares? I wanted to get rid of diapers ASAP, but not everyone feels the same way.
Delete3:03- Do you give this type of unsolicited "needs to" child-rearing advice to all your family and friends as well? I highly doubt this little boy will be one day walking down the aisle of his own wedding wearing diapers.
DeleteAt 8:22 not your blog and not your place to leave a rude comment.
DeleteJessa said she'll do it when he's ready.
DeleteGirls potty train earlier. It's not unusual for a 3 year old boy to still be in diapers.
DeleteI have 1 girl and 4 boys. Boys potty train just fine. All of mine have been potty trained by 2 1/2. They went straight to underwear. About to start potty training my one year old. I really don't care how others handle potty training. I just do what works best for my family. Every family is different and will have different ways of doing things. And Spurgeon may potty train really fast because he is older. When they are younger it's more work on the parent, but I think when they get older they sometimes get where they refuse to go potty. So, it's all work.
DeleteIf she is pregnant and can't get Spurgeon potty trained before the next baby arrives, there will be 3 in diapers.
DeleteThinking about having more kids stresses the snot out of me!
ReplyDeleteSome people want smaller families and some people want larger families and are able to handle them.
Delete"Baby Fever"???What are Henry & Spurgeon?..chopped liver? They are hardly independent, driving adult college students. She has TWO babies already. Enjoy the ones you have, my dear.
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