The Seewald family
Friday, June 16th, 6pm-Saturday, June 17th, 6pm (2017)
Evangelism Reformation Conference
Ben Seewald to speak alongside Voddie Baucham, Jeff Rose, Mark Spence, and others
The Texas Star Conference Centre
1400 Texas Star Parkway, Euless, Texas
$40 for individuals, $60 for couples, $100 for families
Click here to purchase tickets
Saturday, June 24th, 2017, 10am-1pm
Fashionably Modest with Jessa
"Come hear first hand why Jessa has taken the road to modest living, while being directed by God's Word."
Heavenly Highway Tabernacle
5990 Michael Rd, Middletown Ohio
Doors open at 9am
$20 admission includes lunch and meet and greet with Jessa
Click here to purchase tickets (online ticket confirmation required for entry)
Event is for females over the age of 9
Direct questions to Kaitlin Rice at (937-477-3727 or Ricekaitlin17@aol.com)
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I understand what Modest dress is but what is Modest Living ?
ReplyDeleteModest living can mean a lot of things. You can learn to spend money wisely. Just because one has a ton of money (or appears to) doesn't mean it should be spent foolishly. Other ways one can live modestly is growing your own food,use coupons only for items you actually buy,shop thrift store or hold a free clothing exchange with several friends. These are a few ideas that come to mind as our family tries to live modestly.
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DeleteThere it is again! I asked before, but nobody answered. What do two capital T's with an underscore line mean???
DeleteGoogle it ~ this is what I found
DeleteWhat does T___T mean?
April 10, 2017 All Dictionary
T___T meaning in Urban Dictionary
txt for furious glare and straight face
Or
T_T
the face of crying
the horizontal lines of T represents the eyes
and the vertical lines represents tear
the _ represents the mouth
Not sure what Anonymous at 11:39 meant by it.
It is an internet slang symbol. Does it mean "crying"? Anon 11:39?
DeleteI also would like to know what that means. If the person who wrote it won't explain, then it likely means something "bad," so not sure why it's allowed.
DeleteIts a crying face
Delete@ 8:02
DeleteI think its suppose to be a face??? I would like to know to! :-)
I wish I knew. Don't know whether it's an insult or what.
DeleteI Googled it and this is what I found.
DeleteT_T
the face of crying
the horizontal lines of T represents the eyes
and the vertical lines represents tear
the _ represents the mouth
mod·es·ty
Deleteˈmädəstē/
noun
noun: modesty
the quality or state of being unassuming or moderate in the estimation of one's abilities.
"with typical modesty he insisted on sharing the credit with others"
synonyms: self-effacement, humility, unpretentiousness; More
shyness, bashfulness, self-consciousness, reserve, reticence, timidity
"Hannah's modesty cloaks many talents"
the quality of being relatively moderate, limited, or small in amount, rate, or level.
"the modesty of his political aspirations"
synonyms: limited scope, moderation
"the modesty of his aspirations"
behavior, manner, or appearance intended to avoid impropriety or indecency.
plural noun: modesties
"modesty forbade her to undress in front of so many people"
synonyms: unpretentiousness, simplicity, plainness
"the modesty of his home"
I googled "modesty" and copied this definition. Hopefully it didn't paste too wonky for the comment. I don't think modesty can be defined by any list of rules for a way of dress. It truly is a matter of the heart. I have prayed and sought God on this subject after seeing the Duggars' lifestyle. My mind led me into thinking that a burqa with the eye covering would be the only way to truly not arouse a man on any level. Even if your eyes were showing, you could cast a flirtatious look a man's way. Where would that action come from? The heart. If you are trying to seduce a man by your actions or dress, that is a matter of the heart.
Onto other areas of modesty... how much is spending too much for clothing, homes, cars, decorations, possessions? How would this answer differ if I were living in America versus a 3rd world country making less than $1 a day? There simply cannot be set guidelines for living modestly as there is a vast difference in financial means all across this world. God looks at the way we manage possessions to see if we are seeking the whole world for ourselves or if we are putting on compassion, generosity, mercy, love, self-sacrifice, contentment, trust in His provision... matters of the heart.
It's the big picture of the Bible. God looks at our hearts. And because we tend to fail and mess up.. because we get selfish, prideful, greedy, lustful, etc. He sent Jesus to show us the way, to die for our sins, to conquer death, to guide our hearts closer to His by the Holy Spirit.
Thank you everyone. I'm not up on Internet slang symbols. Now I'm not sure why the OP "cried" about the comment--LOL!!
DeleteModest women don't wear their long hair down in public. They wear it up in a bun or a braid. A woman's hair is her crown and not to be displayed. Modest women don't wear make-up. Modest women wear shoes that cover their feet. Long hair, make-up and naked feet do indeed arouse men.
ReplyDeletelol
DeleteReally??? We have pretty strict modesty standards, but this is ridiculous...
DeleteYou got some strict rules going on there. I don't agree with these ideas because they are just observed by a few people in the population and how do they make a person moral or better? The Bible says who ever looks after a woman to lust after her sins. I think it is on the men or whomever to not look at women and think lustful thoughts about them. But women can visably present their hair, beauty and feet openly and uncovered to the world, because doing so is not immoral or causing anyone to reacte in a way that is out of their control to choose.
DeleteHow does a woman not display her hair? If long hair arouses a man, then that's his problem. Long hair is not sensual in itself so if a man makes it that, then he's the one who needs help.
DeleteWow!
DeleteYou are indeed judgemental!!
How do you know what specifically modest is? These boundaries are not listed in the Bible!!!!
That is, indeed, the man's problem.
DeleteThe 21st century modest woman must realize that as styles change modesty looks different. It is OK to cut your hair, wear makeup respectively, ect. To say that if you do cut your hair or wear makeup you are immodest is very judgemental and offensive to many woman who do choose to do these things
DeleteThat is not exactly true. That is the old pentecostal way. I am a pentecostal and I dress modestly yet wear make up and cut my hair occasionally.
Deleteoy'vey!! We gots a baptist on our hands HA!
DeleteHal, who made those rules?
DeleteExcuse me, but you speak out of tradition, not the Word of God. Modesty is definitely more than just "wear this, don't wear that... " It comes first out of the humble spirit, the Lord may then guide each individual in pursuing true modesty.
DeleteNaked feet arouse men?! LOL
DeleteWho made you an authority on what makes a woman modest? The Bible says that the woman's hair was given to us for a covering. I, for one, would like to know just how our hair is supposed to 'cover' is if we have it tucked away in a bun.
DeleteAlso, Jesus wore sandals. Would you say that God was immodest while walking on the Earth in human form? I think not!
And, well, if men are aroused at the mere sight of a woman with long hair, makeup and some open-toed shoes, then perhaps the man needs to check his own self. :)
Just wow
DeleteHal, it's their idea of modesty. Their ideas are of this generation. You'res is somewhere in the 50s or possibly earlier.
DeleteHal, you do realize you are probably made a lot of the ladies(and a few guys) here angry by your comment?
DeleteI do respectlly disagree with you that modest women don't wear makeup. I know many women who dress very modestly that wear makeup. I understand what you are saying about our hair. I wear my hair up and I wear a headcovering because I trying to honor God's Word in 1 Corinthians 11. As far as women's feet I don't know any scriptural verse that forbid women or men for that matter to be wear shoes that don't cover the feet completely. Do you have scriptures to back up your claims? If so please provide them. I love reading and studying God's Word.
I am indeed very modest. I only wear long, flowing dresses and clothing that won't draw attention to my body. But I do not wear my hair up. A woman's hair is her covering and should be displayed. But I don't think it matters if you wear your hair up or down. I agree on the make up. There's something about natural beauty that is special.
DeleteMy goodness 11:40!! I don't think Hal's idea of modesty even hit this century!!
DeleteWe live in the 21st century not the dark ages. God does not care what we wear its your actions and what is in your heart that counts. I often see the phrase "judge not lest ye be judged" posted a lot on this and other duggar related web sites if we judge someone by the clothes they wear or how they look then that is wrong and goes against Gods teaching. I also agree that men should be able to control themselves and take accountability for their own thoughts and actions and cannot blame the woman for their own wrong doings this is dangerous thinking.
DeleteJust as most readers here share similar modesty standards as the Duggars, so Hal can have his/her interpretation of what modesty means. It is this type of arguing over who is right or wrong that gives religion a bad name. It also isolates instead of unites people. You don't have to agree with everyone but I think that we could all challenge ourselves and practice respectful tolerance more often.
DeletePersonally, I am not a fan of make-up.
DeleteI wish women would just accept themselves as they are. However, if a woman wants to wear make-up, that is up to her. I do not think she is immodest.
I do think that long hair is impractical. Shorter hair is cleaner, easier to manage, cooler in the summer etc.. Growing up, my parents kept all of us kids hair very short, even the girls. It was only as teens did we grow our hair long. But, in my late 20s, I cut mine as did my sisters.
I have better things to do with my time than fussing with hair and make-up. It is also been a great deal cheaper over the years.
Hal, maybe you'd be more comfortable in the Arab countries where women wear burkas. That amount of fussing over appearance is NOT the Christian way.
DeleteAnon @ 9.48 I agree that tolerance is important and perhaps a middle ground needs to be established. However it is often those with the most ridgid views that are the least tolerant of others and give religion a bad name. They refuse to see others way of thinking and believe they are right, they are not open to new thinking or ideas. The old expression my way or the highway comes to mind.
DeleteHal was yanking your chains...
DeleteSeriously??!!! 😳You've gotta be kidding me!! God gave us long hair for a reason... he could've made it grow in a bun if that's what he wanted. Or at least he would've told us somewhere that that was what he wanted. We are not to be so "modest" as to be a deterrent for Christianity! Fair dinkum!!
DeleteAgreed that short hair is so much easier. Unfortunately, I don't have the hair or the face for it, but wish I did. Would cut off my hair in a heartbeat.
DeleteNo matter how pretty plain or modest a woman can make herself, she will also have a man consider her looks sensual. It is really their problem not hers.
DeleteYes I have heard of men who have some sort of 'issue' with women's feet and hair but these are very few and even God e world would view these men as 'cranky'.
For the record,jessa has worn her hair in a bun and donned covered shoes. I would be really surprised if she walked around in sandals all year round because I am sure they have winters in arkansas - sally
I find it rather funny that some women actually think wearing long flowing skirts, long hair etc.. will not draw attention to themselves. In fact, it is the opposite. A woman who dresses different from the norm is making herself 'stand out'.
DeleteReminds me of something a former Muslim woman, not a famous author, wrote. She had been told, as a child, that if women did not cover up her hair and body that society would grind to a halt. Men could not go about their normal business; they would be so detracted by women.
When she first arrived in a western country, she found that her dress was distracting to others. People looked at her because she was dressed differently. One day, she decided to go outside dressed like an average Western woman. NOTHING happened. Men were more than capable of driving cars etc.. In fact, no one paid any attention to her.
Woman are free to wear whatever they want to. But, if you do not want to draw attention to yourself, dress like all of the other women in your society.
Being paid to talk about your modest lifestyle seems like an oxymoron
ReplyDeleteNot an oxymoron, more just like contradictory.
DeleteI agree. It feels immodest to talk about how modest you are. Modesty in dress is such a broad topic that is different from place to place and culture to culture. "Living modestly" would also look differently for each individual person, and I feel that only the Lord can judge the heart of a person and how they are managing material possessions.
DeleteWho knows? Maybe this is exactly what Jessa is going to speak on. There isn't a one size shoe that fits everyone for living a modest life.
Maybe men should control themselves instead of women, Hal.
ReplyDeleteWell now Sara there's an idea!!
DeleteYou can be modest while having your hair down and even wear g make up, it is what is in your heart that matters most.
ReplyDeleteI would respectfully like to know where Hal is getting these "rules."
ReplyDeleteI would respectfully like to know where Jessa is getting her rules.
DeleteFrom the dictionary, under "joke."
DeleteSo...I was overly joyed when I saw that you guys were going to be in Euless! I quickly text my two best friends and asked if they would like to see Jessa with me. I then quickly purchased 3 tickets before they could be sold out. Then I read the post comments and someone mentioned Ohio...so I reread. Much to my despair I then see that I acted too quickly out of excitement to get to hear Jessa speak in person. Pretty out of character for me because I'm a checker and a rechecker. It was then that I realized Jessa will be in Ohio...and I will still be in TX. It's a 15 hour drive to get to Ohio from here. I couldn't believe my mistake so all I could do was laugh...a lot. My best friends now think I'm crazy. They are twins. One is half convinced to have a road trip and the other says no way we are driving that drive for a morning! Meanwhile...I'm still here thinking about how I made that silly mistake. It said non refundable when I bought them...that I saw. Anywho, I don't want 3 chairs to be empty or 3 lunches wasted. I'm hoping I can figure this one out.
ReplyDeleteMaybe a fellow reader could purchase them from you via Paypal?
DeleteAww that stinks :( maybe you could post them and see if you can't sell them online? I've not sold stuff online myself to be honest. If you do, be careful.
DeleteTo the person with the tickets - Check that website. There's talk online of Jessa's appearance being canceled. If so, you might be refunded? There's contact info in the event link Ellie gave above, if you want to try to straighten out your situation or confirm that Jessa is still slated to speak.
DeleteWho do you sound like,Hal, Jesus or the Pharisee?
ReplyDeleteLuke 7:36
One of the Pharisees asked him to eat with him, and he went into the Pharisee’s house and reclined at table. 37And behold, a woman of the city, who was a sinner, when she learned that he was reclining at table in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster flask of ointment, 38and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head and kissed his feet and anointed them with the ointment. 39Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.” 40And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he answered, “Say it, Teacher.”
41“A certain moneylender had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42When they could not pay, he cancelled the debt of both. Now which of them will love him more?” 43Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, for whom he cancelled the larger debt.” And he said to him, “You have judged rightly.” 44Then turning toward the woman he said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45You gave me no kiss, but from the time I came in she has not ceased to kiss my feet. 46You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment. 47Therefore I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven—for she loved much. But he who is forgiven little, loves little.” 48And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49Then those who were at table with him began to say amongh themselves, “Who is this, who even forgives sins?” 50And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
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Instead of trying lovingly help "Hal" to see another point of view, you are hurling scripture at him and being rude and insulting. Where is the humility?
DeleteHallie, your definition of a modest woman is a very strict interpretation. The Bible does not specify how a woman is to wear her hair, just that utilizes is her crowning glory. Some people give a very legalistic interpretation and set of rules. God directs each person should heart. Man makes rules.
ReplyDeleteThe Dugger girls wear make-up and flip-flops and their hair down
ReplyDeleteFor a few, the makeup is on way too heavy.
DeleteAnd? Just curious, since they're still very modest. Not sure why bare feet, or mostly bare feet are immodest. Or knees or shoulders for that matter.
DeleteWho knows what people perceive as immodest or why. The answer would vary as much as there are people's opinions. I knew a nun who warned girls that a white tablecloth was immodest if you had a boyfriend to dinner, because the tablecloth could remind him of the sheet on a bed. Go figure.
DeleteModest Living is keeping your shades drawn in your house so no one can see inside?
ReplyDeleteI would say modest living is spending money on what you need, growing a garden (fruit and veggies), shop at thrift stores, little to no TV or Internet.
ReplyDeleteHow is Jessa going to explain why her sister is now wearing shorts and pants? That is not in line with the Duggar modesty rules.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Jessa needs to explain why her adult married sister is wearing shorts and pants.
DeleteGood question. Kind of blows a giant hole through the tenet of "We wear skirts because we're girls. We're so used to wearing skirts that we can do anything in them."
DeleteI think she does need to explain because we all know full well that the family modesty lifestyle rules began with modest clothing, which meant below-the-knee skirts for girls, period. I'd love to hear Jessa explain in her own words why it's OK now for any Duggar (or even former Duggar) girl to wear pants. Or maybe why it's not OK, and Jinger has already taken heat for it?
DeleteJessa is not her sister's keeper. With two kiddies under 2 and bd to take care of, I'm sure she does not have time to converge with her
Deletesister over her clothing choices.
What ev...when yur married and out of the house, then your own rules apply...quit comparing Mom and pops household rules...enough already folks😏
DeleteModesty is probably different things to different people. I think a good rule is if the Lord entered a room you are in would you need to go change or would you be fine?
ReplyDeleteI'd need to go change, because I'd faint and that would be the end of my clean clothes.
DeleteThe Lord created my body so why would I be ashamed in any way? Do you not think He can see when I'm in the shower or having private time with my husband? If The Lord physically entered my room changing my outfit is not what I would be thinking about. I'm pretty sure I would be on my knees in total reverence to my Lord and Saviour.
DeleteGood one. We can apply that to anything we say or do, really.
DeleteSomething tells me that Hal is making his comments just to get a rise out of people. It's all a joke.
ReplyDeleteI think so too.
DeleteWill Jessa be discussing modest attire whilst pregnant. Everyone has seen her too tight overstretched t-shirts hardly modest. What do others think, genuinely interested as a lot of remarks were made at the time.
ReplyDeleteThere's a different level of modesty when pregnant
DeleteAnon @ 1.44 your level of modesty shoud never change if its your conviction, pregnant or not.
DeleteModesty shouln't change just because you are pregnant. You can wear loose fitting tops and shirts it doesn't need to be body hugging showing your belly button
DeleteThere's a big difference in showing cleveage and showing FEET! Lol! I do like anonymous April 13 at 2:31 pm answer though! That's good!
ReplyDeleteLol!!! Usually feet are ugly! That's a "turn on" to men? I'm all for modesty but not legalism.
ReplyDeleteI am 49 years old and I would like to go see you with my husband. A huge fan of the show and would love to meet you. I don't have a young girl to bring along and fortunately to hear your talk on Modest dressing but I would still love to come.
ReplyDeleteI just read men can't come. Oh well I will try to find someone else to go with
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice for an attendee or attendees of Jessa's presentation to send a brief summary of what they got out of the seminar. If Lily and Ellie feel it is appropriate they could post it. As an adult the fashion industry does not have big impact on me. My son will be entering his teenage years soon. Appearance and fitting in puts a lot of pressure on young people.
ReplyDeleteCould Jessa please start with that interviewer on this very page??? Maybe she could do her a favor and offer advice for free!!
ReplyDeleteJessa does not live modest or dress modest. The Amish and Mennonite live modest and dress modest.
ReplyDeleteWhat about feeling good with what we're are ? No need to wear modest clothes particularly for this !
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